Anyone had this bug yet?

[Streetwalker]

I thought I had had it. Self isolated with symptoms, but the test says I have no antibodies detected, so it must have been some other illness.  :shock:

Ah OK .Not sure if that's good news or bad news for you ..

Anyway as I  previously mentioned am pretty sure I had the bug at the end of March . Im still knackered after a bit of exercise like 8 weeks later

[Barry]

Sorry Im loosing track here . Did you have the virus Barry ?

I thought I had had it. Self isolated with symptoms, but the test says I have no antibodies detected, so it must have been some other illness.  :shock:

[Streetwalker]

My antibody test was negative.  :shock:

Sorry Im loosing track here . Did you have the virus Barry ?

[Barry]

My antibody test was negative.  :shock:

[Thomas]

I sometimes despair at your inability to read and understand a post before going off on one.

I know we can all misunderstand posts from time to time barry , but i wholeheartedly agree with you here regarding javert.



Deppity dawg makes the same point practically every day on this forum regarding the same person.

[Barry]

What profile?



Is this an official sanctioned activity by a reputable organisation?  Just checking because I was on a work meeting the other day where the occupational health nurse was there, and she said "do not buy any antibody tests of the internet as many of them are either fake, or not accurate enough to give a good enough chance of the correct result", and also she said to be very careful about antibody tests even from research studies as they also may not be the truly most accurate tests.

I sometimes despair at your inability to read and understand a post before going off on one.

[Javert]

I put in my profile that I work p/t for the NHS but it's possible you can't or haven't seen that.

What profile?



Is this an official sanctioned activity by a reputable organisation?  Just checking because I was on a work meeting the other day where the occupational health nurse was there, and she said "do not buy any antibody tests of the internet as many of them are either fake, or not accurate enough to give a good enough chance of the correct result", and also she said to be very careful about antibody tests even from research studies as they also may not be the truly most accurate tests.

[Barry]

I put in my profile that I work p/t for the NHS but it's possible you can't or haven't seen that.

[B0ycey]

I have not "managed to get hold of this test". I have been offered it.

How come you have been offered it then? I only wonder because I wouldn't mind taking one myself!

[Barry]

How have you managed to get hold of this test?

I have not "managed to get hold of this test". I have been offered it.

[B0ycey]

I get an antibody test on Wednesday, and this time they WILL tell me the result.



Extract from official email:

How have you managed to get hold of this test?

[Barry]

I get an antibody test on Wednesday, and this time they WILL tell me the result.



Extract from official email:

Frequently asked questions



What do antibody test results mean?



A positive antibody test demonstrates that someone has developed antibodies to the virus. The presence of antibodies signals that the body has staged an immune response to the virus.



COVID-19 is a new disease, and our understanding of the body's immune response to it is limited. We do not know, for example, how long an antibody response lasts, nor whether having antibodies means you can't transmit the virus to others.



Our understanding of the virus will grow as new scientific evidence and studies emerge.



An antibody test result can only tell an individual whether or not they have had the virus in the past. Antibody tests are also being used currently in surveillance studies, to understand what proportion of the population have already had the virus.



If you test positive for antibodies, can you ignore lockdown restrictions?



No. There is no evidence yet to suggest that those who have been proven to have had the virus are immune. This is the position of the World Health Organisation.



You should continue to comply with social distancing measures and government guidelines. All infection prevention and control measures must continue to be in place irrespective of the presence of antibodies.





How will my information be used?



Are there any risks to having the test?



There are some risks related to having a blood test, such as feeling dizzy and faint during and after the test but nothing specific to this antibody test. Risks can also include bruising at the venepuncture (sic) site. Serious complications such as an infection at the site where blood was taken and phlebitis (swelling of the vein) are possible but generally extremely unlikely.

[johnofgwent]

John I am pretty sure that 95%+ of remainers would not wish anyone to die from any illness no matter their political views, me included.  There are always some trolls and extremists around but they are not representative of the vast majority.  If this virus shows anything it's that nature doesn't give a toss about politics, and doesn't respond to lies, bullying, or any other political BS.  It also doesn't have a passport or respect border controls.



It's certainly possible that you had it before, but I would be careful about assuming you are immune based on that description - there are several other respiratory illnesses that can cause loss of taste/smell.  My fever was barely above the NHS recommendation of 37.9, but I happen to know that my personal "normal" temperature is about 36.3 or so - therefore even when I know my body is 1.5 above normal, the NHS would tell me I am perfectly fine.



Some of the people in Italy who have had this at home were given home kit for measuring blood oxygen level and told to go to hospital only if it went below a certain figure - I think 90% or so.  For me it definitely impacted on the amount of oxygen getting into my body but I don't have any kit to quantify that - just the feelings of lack of energy, breathlessness, and clear increased heart rate.

For the avoidance of doubt, I wasnt putting you into that subset of those on your side of the referendum.



Now, on the virus immunity, yes I am not going to be making any assumptions, but I will be seeking one of those kits if they become a ailable.



From my own postgrad research I know the flu virus can be caught several times by the same person because it grabs bits of your cell surface glycoprotein coat and thus mimics 'you' while inside you, but it takes some of that away when it infects someone else.



So after a few hosts it's totally different to what it was before and any immunity you acquired fighting it a month ago is useless as it no longer looks like that.



The really encouraging news I read some days ago now is the LACK of such mutation and acquisition by Covid 19. This ought to make it far less able to reinfect. We can but wait, see and in the meanwhile hope.



If what I have read turns out to be accurate AND a test shows i was infected without really noticing, then it may be good news. But right now i would not trust anything and i would caution others to adopt that sceptical, but not entirely hopeless, viewpoint.

[Scott777]

I don't think they know yet (and maybe will never know) why some perfectly healthy people get a very serious dose, and others just shrug it off.

Perhaps immune system - poor from bad diet, lack of sunshine, exercise, etc.

[Scott777]

She has had quite severe asthma in the past and has been hospitalised with Asthma attacks 3 or 4 times in the past, but up to having Covid 19 it's been fairly stable for about 2 years.



I can't remember the exact technical term, but her asthma is one that more presents in the upper respiritory tract and throat, rather than deep inside the lungs, so her asthma consultants has told her that it's not necessarily the type of asthma that is likely to increase mortality for Covid 19 by much - it's more if your asthma is deep in the lungs presenting that it's a bigger issue.  However, having a serious case of Covid 19 certainly destablised her asthma and required several days of regular nebuliser to get it under control (normally she does not need nebulisation).  I'm not sure if it's possible to fully separate what was the breathlessness caused by viral pneumonia and what was asthma related coughing / breathlessness.



I guess the positive point is that you can go into hospital with asthma and Covid 19 but come out and recover without the need for extreme interventions like ICU and ventilator - probably partly just based on pure luck or not yet known facctors.

Thanks for advice.  I'll have to check on mum.