Oh Noez..JK Rowling annoys the LGBBQSTDXVI Brigades

Started by Dynamis, June 10, 2020, 07:42:06 PM

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Quote from: Javert on June 10, 2020, 11:35:09 PM
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Quote from: Barry post_id=28718 time=1591822256 user_id=51
It's all about this:

<URL url="https://politicalforums.uk/pol/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=391&hilit=trans">>Transgender<e></e></URL>

AND about the post truth world in which we now live. We all know we are born male or female. (1 in 1500 have problems, but that's congenital abnormality)

Deluded people think that they are women when they are men. (More common)

Others think they are men when they are women. (Less common)

Instead of pointing out their errors and delusion, many people go along with their mental illness and pander to them.



JK Rowling has no problem with accepting people of this nature. She objects to the trans lobby rewriting the dictionary. That's my take on it, anyhow.
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Did you read the entire blog she posted?  Her position was a bit more nuanced than that and she fully accepted that trans people do exist and in some cases gender reassignment is the right thing.  Her concerns seem to be more about people making radical decisions too quickly, when in reality it's probably a mixture - some people are truly born in the wrong body whilst others are confusing that with other issues, and set in an atmosphere where it appears that to question or challenge anything is not allowed. 



She certainly wasn't saying that anyone who is confused about their  gender identity Is definitely mentally ill and the best option is to mansplain the error of their ways. 



Considering in long term history all humans probably ran about naked for a high percentage of their existence so far, it's a bit odd that it's such an issue if men wear women!s clothes or vice versa, but it is a bit concerning if there are significant numbers of people having gender change surgery and then regretting it later.  I do not know the figures here and I'm not even sure if anyone is collecting them.</r>

I think you will find this as enlightening and hoorribly shocking as I did..

https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/a-republican-billionaire-is-funding-the-trans-movement-and-conversion-therapy-junk-science-c0a824c3fb96

(also
https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b)

Powerful Republicans and billionaires truly are the spawn of satan aren't they..
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Javert

Quote from: Barry post_id=28718 time=1591822256 user_id=51
It's all about this:

https://politicalforums.uk/pol/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=391&hilit=trans">Transgender

AND about the post truth world in which we now live. We all know we are born male or female. (1 in 1500 have problems, but that's congenital abnormality)

Deluded people think that they are women when they are men. (More common)

Others think they are men when they are women. (Less common)

Instead of pointing out their errors and delusion, many people go along with their mental illness and pander to them.



JK Rowling has no problem with accepting people of this nature. She objects to the trans lobby rewriting the dictionary. That's my take on it, anyhow.


Did you read the entire blog she posted?  Her position was a bit more nuanced than that and she fully accepted that trans people do exist and in some cases gender reassignment is the right thing.  Her concerns seem to be more about people making radical decisions too quickly, when in reality it's probably a mixture - some people are truly born in the wrong body whilst others are confusing that with other issues, and set in an atmosphere where it appears that to question or challenge anything is not allowed.  



She certainly wasn't saying that anyone who is confused about their  gender identity Is definitely mentally ill and the best option is to mansplain the error of their ways.  



Considering in long term history all humans probably ran about naked for a high percentage of their existence so far, it's a bit odd that it's such an issue if men wear women!s clothes or vice versa, but it is a bit concerning if there are significant numbers of people having gender change surgery and then regretting it later.  I do not know the figures here and I'm not even sure if anyone is collecting them.

Borg Refinery

https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/">https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k- ... er-issues/">https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/
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Borg Refinery

Quote from: Barry post_id=28719 time=1591823450 user_id=51
What a lot of fuss over nothing, really!

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-transgender-letter-twitter-trans-people-a9559346.html">//https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-transgender-letter-twitter-trans-people-a9559346.html


Quite a powerful article. She suffeted sexual assault and domestic violence.



And these want to tell her to STFU and accept their definition of what a woman is, when they live in a bubble detached from the reality many women face..



Sexist, stupid and actually hurts LGBTQ rights if anything..
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Barry

What a lot of fuss over nothing, really!

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-transgender-letter-twitter-trans-people-a9559346.html">//https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-transgender-letter-twitter-trans-people-a9559346.html
† The end is nigh †

Barry

It's all about this:

https://politicalforums.uk/pol/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=391&hilit=trans">Transgender

AND about the post truth world in which we now live. We all know we are born male or female. (1 in 1500 have problems, but that's congenital abnormality)

Deluded people think that they are women when they are men. (More common)

Others think they are men when they are women. (Less common)

Instead of pointing out their errors and delusion, many people go along with their mental illness and pander to them.



JK Rowling has no problem with accepting people of this nature. She objects to the trans lobby rewriting the dictionary. That's my take on it, anyhow.
† The end is nigh †

Nalaar

Quote from: Javert post_id=28704 time=1591816833 user_id=64
I gather she has written an essay blog about it now - it's easily findable in the news today.



She is also concerned about young people making life changing decisions which some of them may later regret and the extremely aggressive vilification of anyone who expresses any reservations about it.


I gave it a read. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with the OP story other than in general being about trans people. I remain unsure of why she had such a bad reaction to 'people who menstruate'
Don't believe everything you think.

Borg Refinery

Quote from: Nalaar post_id=28705 time=1591816998 user_id=99
It's ridiculous that she cares.



It's ridiculous that people care that she cares.


Well, twitter is rather banal isn't it. But yes you're correct.



Whar's not ridiculous is the very real backlash she's facing where people think it's ok to harass people, that's not so ridiculous is it.
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Nalaar

Quote from: Dynamis post_id=28701 time=1591816633 user_id=98
Yes, it's ridiculous isn't it?



The whole media machine is very angry with her and want to see if she burns like a witch..


It's ridiculous that she cares.



It's ridiculous that people care that she cares.
Don't believe everything you think.

Javert

Quote from: Nalaar post_id=28697 time=1591816044 user_id=99
So this whole thing is about her objecting to the word 'people' being used in an opinion piece about period products, on a media outlet blog for developing nations aid workers?


I gather she has written an essay blog about it now - it's easily findable in the news today.



She is also concerned about young people making life changing decisions which some of them may later regret and the extremely aggressive vilification of anyone who expresses any reservations about it.

Borg Refinery

Quote from: Nalaar post_id=28697 time=1591816044 user_id=99
So this whole thing is about her objecting to the word 'people' being used in an opinion piece about period products, on a media outlet blog for developing nations aid workers?


Yes, it's ridiculous isn't it?



The whole media machine is very angry with her and want to see if she burns like a witch..
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DeppityDawg


Nalaar

Quote from: Dynamis post_id=28695 time=1591815621 user_id=98
It's the dancing around calling women women.



Why is that SO offensive to anyone else for goodness sake? Where does it say that trans people are any lesser or that anyone else is a bad person?


So this whole thing is about her objecting to the word 'people' being used in an opinion piece about period products, on a media outlet blog for developing nations aid workers?
Don't believe everything you think.

Borg Refinery

Quote from: Nalaar post_id=28691 time=1591815302 user_id=99
What exactly is the problem with the title that she objected to?


It's the dancing around calling women women.



Why is that SO offensive to anyone else for goodness sake? Where does it say that trans people are any lesser or that anyone else is a bad person?
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Nalaar

What exactly is the problem with the title that she objected to?
Don't believe everything you think.