When Diana Abbott mis-spoke

[Good old]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

I could be mistaken,  but I think that Blair may have been guilty of the same duplicity,  praising state schools, yet sending his children private  - not sure,  but the vitriol surrounding Ms Abbott's error, was just huge, as though she was supposed to be a walking computer.  I don't know why she didn't just say that she didn't have the figure to hand - I would have.

Well isn't Bliar one of the most hated ex prime ministers?

That may be the case . But why people with means are ostracized  for  using those  means to their benefit whilst taking a more general position of trying harder than most  to improve the lot of the lower classes is beyond me.
Do people really think the person leading a socialist party ,has to be someone of no means, ? Or someone of means  but in total denial of those means.  Does it have to be sackcloth and ashes ,if you ain't the real thing.?
Anyway Abbot, needed to do her homework. But then so did two lady Tory ministers recently when interviewed by Piers Morgan, they got rightly slaughtered. A hell of a lot of people said nasty Piers, how dare he talk to those ladies like that. No mention of them being ministers of state, without a clue between them. There is a bias but whether it is to do with Abbots colour, maybe not ,because there is a political bias right now ,and she's on the end of it anyway.

Well I think Bliar is most hated because of Iraq,as for him trying hard to improve the lot of others would you say PFI hospitals and the like filled that brief or just left us with a millstone of debt?
No one asks for them to be in sackcloth and ashes but some honesty and humility might help and Abbott was quite rightly pulled for her stance on state education and having her own privately educated.

Yes I think you are right , Iraq, was Blair's great mistake,. Should have kept his nose out . Yet here we are , with Libya, out of control, feeding  Southern Europe with Africa,s great unwanted. Due to the actions of a Mr D Cameron. and only Blair gets vilified to the extreme. Essentially both actions were getting rid of a despot . Both have left a legacy to be regretted . Blair didn't dot his I s . Cameron did. 
We really needed those hospitals , most of our hospitals still relied on Victorian buildings exclusively. One can argue about the method of paying for them but after close on twenty years of cuts to all parts of the service . Something was desperately needed. As it is now ,after another ten years of cut backs,  or so Boris, seems to think. What is it 40 new hospitals , no money tree interesting.  Remarkable really thirty years of doing next to nothing , is thought preferable to an imperfect  funding  agreement.
Cromwell, have you seen , any honesty ,or humility , from this lot ? The lies told in recent months alone . Where  is the humility in telling a straight faced lie no matter the party telling the lie.
At the end of the day honesty and humility are both virtually non existent in politics ,Blair, didn't corner the market.

[Borchester]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

I could be mistaken,  but I think that Blair may have been guilty of the same duplicity,  praising state schools, yet sending his children private  - not sure,  but the vitriol surrounding Ms Abbott's error, was just huge, as though she was supposed to be a walking computer.  I don't know why she didn't just say that she didn't have the figure to hand - I would have.

Well isn't Bliar one of the most hated ex prime ministers?

That may be the case . But why people with means are ostracized  for  using those  means to their benefit whilst taking a more general position of trying harder than most  to improve the lot of the lower classes is beyond me.
Do people really think the person leading a socialist party ,has to be someone of no means, ? Or someone of means  but in total denial of those means.  Does it have to be sackcloth and ashes ,if you ain't the real thing.?
Anyway Abbot, needed to do her homework. But then so did two lady Tory ministers recently when interviewed by Piers Morgan, they got rightly slaughtered. A hell of a lot of people said nasty Piers, how dare he talk to those ladies like that. No mention of them being ministers of state, without a clue between them. There is a bias but whether it is to do with Abbots colour, maybe not ,because there is a political bias right now ,and she's on the end of it anyway.

Well I think Bliar is most hated because of Iraq,as for him trying hard to improve the lot of others would you say PFI hospitals and the like filled that brief or just left us with a millstone of debt?
No one asks for them to be in sackcloth and ashes but some honesty and humility might help and Abbott was quite rightly pulled for her stance on state education and having her own privately educated.

I don't think that Blair was hated other than by his own party.

The problem with the Iraq war was that we played second fiddle to the Yanks. The British don't really care about killing foreigners, but they like it done on our terms.

The left hated Blair because he cut the Labour party's balls off by the abolition of Clause 4 and thus turned it into a slightly left of centre movement that went on to win the next three elections.

Whenever a politician shows honesty and humility I start to wonder what they are up to.

[cromwell]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

I could be mistaken,  but I think that Blair may have been guilty of the same duplicity,  praising state schools, yet sending his children private  - not sure,  but the vitriol surrounding Ms Abbott's error, was just huge, as though she was supposed to be a walking computer.  I don't know why she didn't just say that she didn't have the figure to hand - I would have.

Well isn't Bliar one of the most hated ex prime ministers?

That may be the case . But why people with means are ostracized  for  using those  means to their benefit whilst taking a more general position of trying harder than most  to improve the lot of the lower classes is beyond me.
Do people really think the person leading a socialist party ,has to be someone of no means, ? Or someone of means  but in total denial of those means.  Does it have to be sackcloth and ashes ,if you ain't the real thing.?
Anyway Abbot, needed to do her homework. But then so did two lady Tory ministers recently when interviewed by Piers Morgan, they got rightly slaughtered. A hell of a lot of people said nasty Piers, how dare he talk to those ladies like that. No mention of them being ministers of state, without a clue between them. There is a bias but whether it is to do with Abbots colour, maybe not ,because there is a political bias right now ,and she's on the end of it anyway.

Well I think Bliar is most hated because of Iraq,as for him trying hard to improve the lot of others would you say PFI hospitals and the like filled that brief or just left us with a millstone of debt?
No one asks for them to be in sackcloth and ashes but some honesty and humility might help and Abbott was quite rightly pulled for her stance on state education and having her own privately educated.

[Good old]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

I could be mistaken,  but I think that Blair may have been guilty of the same duplicity,  praising state schools, yet sending his children private  - not sure,  but the vitriol surrounding Ms Abbott's error, was just huge, as though she was supposed to be a walking computer.  I don't know why she didn't just say that she didn't have the figure to hand - I would have.

Well isn't Bliar one of the most hated ex prime ministers?

That may be the case . But why people with means are ostracized  for  using those  means to their benefit whilst taking a more general position of trying harder than most  to improve the lot of the lower classes is beyond me.
Do people really think the person leading a socialist party ,has to be someone of no means, ? Or someone of means  but in total denial of those means.  Does it have to be sackcloth and ashes ,if you ain't the real thing.?
Anyway Abbot, needed to do her homework. But then so did two lady Tory ministers recently when interviewed by Piers Morgan, they got rightly slaughtered. A hell of a lot of people said nasty Piers, how dare he talk to those ladies like that. No mention of them being ministers of state, without a clue between them. There is a bias but whether it is to do with Abbots colour, maybe not ,because there is a political bias right now ,and she's on the end of it anyway.

[papasmurf]

Well isn't Bliar one of the most hated ex prime ministers?

Out of the one's alive, probably.

[Nalaar]

Her mix-up of numbers/facts/figures is hardly anything remarkable, though the reaction to it was remarkably disproportionate. Personally I thought her comments about Mao were much more deserving of scrutiny than I ever saw them receive.

[cromwell]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

I could be mistaken,  but I think that Blair may have been guilty of the same duplicity,  praising state schools, yet sending his children private  - not sure,  but the vitriol surrounding Ms Abbott's error, was just huge, as though she was supposed to be a walking computer.  I don't know why she didn't just say that she didn't have the figure to hand - I would have.

Well isn't Bliar one of the most hated ex prime ministers?

[Bernie]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

I could be mistaken,  but I think that Blair may have been guilty of the same duplicity,  praising state schools, yet sending his children private  - not sure,  but the vitriol surrounding Ms Abbott's error, was just huge, as though she was supposed to be a walking computer.  I don't know why she didn't just say that she didn't have the figure to hand - I would have.

[cromwell]

I actually agree with Nick,Abbott was the author of her own misfortune which really kicked off with her raving over the  state education system which she then rejected for her own offspring and went private and refused to justify why it was so good for everyone else's kids but not her own.

Don't think she ever got over that which was compounded on a regular basis by her failures to show any in depth knowledge of what she was spouting about......absolutely nothing to do with her race.

[papasmurf]

Was our reaction excessive? Would we have reacted the same way if she'd been white?

Which time are you referring to?

[Nick]

The abuse Ms Abacus got was nothing to do with the colour of her skin, she hangs her self out to dry. 

[Bernie]

Was our reaction excessive? Would we have reacted the same way if she'd been white?