What schools are for

[johnofgwent]

It was a while back now,  but I remember when my youngest was doing her A levels towards the end of the course, I volunteered to be one of many such to go in and hold a revision seminar for the a level students.



The thing that struck me more than any other was the totally noisy, disorganised, utterly raucous rabble that was the fourth and fifth year.



The school fell into special measures and all sorts soon after, and is still in special measures.... Ironically my grand daughters PRIMARY school staff and pupils including her are together involved in dragging the secondary school out of the gutter .....

[johnofgwent]

I was in school in the early 50's and 60's  no free bus pass, no free school meals , no free anything, outward bound week had to be paid for so I only went the once, most other kids did not even get that, you were very lucky

 :hattip  :hattip

[Baron von Lotsov]

This is what you get for your ten grand a term.

New Hall is a Catholic independent boarding & day school for girls and boys aged 1-18. New Hall School operates the highly successful 'diamond model', where students are educated in co-educational classes from ages 1 to 11 and at Sixth Form. However, from ages 11 to 16 they are taught in single-sex lessons. Click on one of the four diamonds below to find out more about our divisions.



The main benefits of the 'diamond model' and five years of single-sex teaching, derive from the ability to tailor pastoral and academic provision more sensitively and expertly to the needs of young people going through the physical, emotional and social upheaval of adolescence. Young teenagers are liberated from the negative peer pressure of having to perform in mixed classes. The gender stereotyping of subjects is also removed. Girls and boys follow an identical curriculum and do not learn to perceive subjects as being more suited to either girls or boys.

Interesting eh? It's kind of half in on this matter and half out. It might well be the law that is forcing its hand, but clearly the single sex lessons are far more effective. I know because I went to both types of school, and the single sex school was one of the top state schools in the country, and one of the last grammar schools. It was miles ahead of the others. It was like a production line to Oxford and Cambridge. Above all it had a serious atmosphere to it, where everyone there was serious about study.



They were not serious at the mixed-sex schools Ive been to or even the university I went to, which is also considered a top place, but it wasn't. It was full of immature idiots, and a step-down from the school I had come from. My regret is that I had not had the education I got at this grammar school before hand. Those who went to Oxford had that advantage, and it was through them I twigged i had a lot of catching up to do. You get this realisation the state system screwed you and perhaps if you really did get into it you'd be punting around Oxford at some point. As it was, the previous school was trying to dumb it down and we spent most time fighting it. A good school is there to help you. State schools on the whole are there to screw you up, much like Mao's malign influence.

[Churchill]

:roll:

[Baron von Lotsov]

We sent our kids to a Catholic School wife is Catholic I am not I agreed with her for the simple reason A. there was good discipline in the school and  B their results were very good in comparison to other schools nearby.



Yes I agree many teachers are very left leaning

My woman is Catholic as well and she went to New Hall, which is a Catholic school. Good discipline was what the school believed in, not what went on.



The trouble with Catholics though is it is like a cult. They like to run you as a cult would run its members. It's very formulaic as well and ritualistic, and a lot of it very old, such that it is in Latin. They did however come out being very polite and good characters. I've met a few other girls from the same group, and they ended up very successful in life, but I suppose it kind of smells a bit like the Jew thing. One wonders whether its a bit of a nod and a wink progression up the greasy pole.

[Churchill]

We sent our kids to a Catholic School wife is Catholic I am not I agreed with her for the simple reason A. there was good discipline in the school and  B their results were very good in comparison to other schools nearby.



Yes I agree many teachers are very left leaning

[Wiggles]

What schools are for. Nice easy answer to a simple question. They are for educating children in order they can get jobs or progress to further education. They should have nothing to do with religion, and they certainly should not have anything to do with modern morality. That is to say telling kids they can be what ever sex they choose, practice the perversion of their choice, or adopt children regardless of their domestic affairs, should not be on any school's curriculum. Unfortunately schools in the UK are run by socialist teachers with a liberal agenda.

[Baron von Lotsov]

Speaking as someone who left mainstream education at the age of 15 with a handful of O levels, having leapt a year, perhaps the real point is that there is nothing to "get".

Common sense is something that is highly valuable in our society.

You should have continued your education. You would have been taught more advanced concepts. Now you just don't get more advanced concepts, like a great number in this country.

[Barry]

If I go the short way you don't get it.



but then if I go the long way you still don't get it.

Speaking as someone who left mainstream education at the age of 15 with a handful of O levels, having leapt a year, perhaps the real point is that there is nothing to "get".

Common sense is something that is highly valuable in our society.

[Baron von Lotsov]

You really do go a long way round to get to the foot of the stairs,

If I go the short way you don't get it.

 what the heck has putting petrol in your car and Google got to do with this.

but then if I go the long way you still don't get it.

[Churchill]

You really do go a long way round to get to the foot of the stairs, what the heck has putting petrol in your car and Google got to do with this.



We all pay taxes part of that taxation goes to fund the Education Department and part of it goes to the Department Health, if you have children and they go to a State School there is no cost to he parents it is free at the point of usage, if you are ill and need treatment at a State run Hospital your treatment is free at the point of usage.



As for your last paragraph I would like to say revealing and outstanding , but its not just weird :-?



I have now worked out how you work

[Baron von Lotsov]

What point are you trying to make ?  :-?

That you are parroting a point which is academic. It is not free if you have to pay for it.



Because of this disconnect between the money in your pocket and what you get for it, you get thoroughly stuffed.



Take my other example, which is Google. You do not pay for it when you search on it, but pay for it as a tax on everything you buy which pays Google.



If the exchange is 5 apples for 2 pounds and someone else is selling apples at a different price then it is as clear as day what apples you get for how much. These shts who get paid by the government can do practically anything they want and you will still be forced to pay at the threat of going to prison if you refuse. You pay a fortune for state education and the budget has increased dramatically over the year and is one of the biggest spenders of your tax money, together with the sister con known as the NHS. The NHS funds government propaganda, but you would not pay for the propaganda if you were charged directly, i.e. on your bill it said this month's propaganda fees are £x. Of course not. It's all done by force and the education system is so corrupt now it has single-handedly destroyed this country. We will never recover economically because the workforce is too stupid, and this is mass stupidity, not the odd one or two.

[Churchill]

Petrol is free at the point of filling your car up.

What point are you trying to make ?  :-?

[Borchester]

I do understand how it works, what I am having some difficulty understanding is how you work :-?

     

[Baron von Lotsov]

:roll:



Our Education is Free at the point of use for state educated pupils

Petrol is free at the point of filling your car up.