WHO (Accidentally) Confirms Covid is No More Dangerous Than Flu

[HDQQ]

At the moment it's at about 3 times as many but as of yesterday  they are seeing 20,000 cases per day but 137 deaths: 0.7% mortality.

Back in April it was 1200 deaths for 6000 cases: 20% mortality.

That's my point.

Deaths lag behind case confirmations by some time - days or even weeks. But you're right that the number of deaths in relation to the number of cases does seem a lot lower now but we can't know whether this will hold true until we know the situation in a couple of weeks or so.

[papasmurf]

At the moment it's at about 3 times as many but as of yesterday  they are seeing 20,000 cases per day but 137 deaths: 0.7% mortality.

Back in April it was 1200 deaths for 6000 cases: 20% mortality.

That's my point.

Check the deaths in a months time.

[Nick]

Roughly 10 times as many deaths per day as in August and September is hardly 'barely moving'.

At the moment it's at about 3 times as many but as of yesterday  they are seeing 20,000 cases per day but 137 deaths: 0.7% mortality.

Back in April it was 1200 deaths for 6000 cases: 20% mortality.

That's my point.

[patman post]

And treatments are improving and having better outcomes...

https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/8/21317128/improved-covid-treatment-hospitals-remdesivir-dexamethasone

[HDQQ]

Not ignored. Known infection rates are going through the room whilst deaths are barely moving. It has to be down to the increased level of testing.

Roughly 10 times as many deaths per day as in August and September is hardly 'barely moving'.

[Nick]

I don't see how rising infection levels and the increasing number of deaths can be ignored and Covid be allowed to let rip.

Not ignored. Known infection rates are going through the room whilst deaths are barely moving. It has to be down to the increased level of testing.

[Nick]

Really? They rarely end up with long term life limiting conditions.

Death is fairly limiting.

[papasmurf]

Is that one of the symptoms?

Apparently it can be:-
https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-diarrhea#gastrointestinal-symptoms

Diarrhea
Diarrhea commonly occurs in people with COVID-19. One studyTrusted Source published in the American Journal of Gastroenterology examined 206 patients with a mild case of COVID-19. They found 48 people had only digestive symptoms and another 69 had both digestive and respiratory symptoms.

Of the combined total of 117 people with gastric distress, 19.4 percent experienced diarrhea as their first symptom.

[patman post]

Anyway as foretold, more panic and more lockdowns, they are crapping themselves.

Is that one of the symptoms? If so look out for more bog roll hoarding...

[Sheepy]

Anyway as foretold, more panic and more lockdowns, they are crapping themselves.

[patman post]

If the cold weather is part of the reason for the increase, does that suggest that the virus is surviving in the open air? Given that more places have heating on when it's cold, average indoor temperatures aren't likely to be that much less than a coolish summer day.

You appear to have solved the problem you posed — in cold weather people to prefer spending time inside rather than outdoors. And as most public buildings tend to be heated in cold weather, the warm enclosed atmosphere (ideal for a virus to spread and thrive) is what we're warned against spending time in with other people...

[patman post]

I'm not seeing the relevance to the general population of disputing which disease is called what or allied to. The overriding concern must be how to deal with what's infecting people now.

I don't see how rising infection levels and the increasing number of deaths can be ignored and Covid be allowed to let rip.

What I do doubt is that the govt and local authorities are being hoodwinked into OTT reactions to contain Covid. Wouldn't most of them prefer to have the majority of the population thriving so they can claim life's better with them when elections are due...?

[papasmurf]

I did provide some, unlike you. You are saying they are irrelevant because you don't like the content as it shows you are wrong. Which goes against your self delusion of infallibility.

No infallibility involved,  long covid is a new phenomenon, with large numbers involved.
Cases of long term life limiting medical conditions after "normal" flu are small. There really is no comparison.

[Barry]

Frankly neither of those links is relevant, they are specific cases.

I did provide some, unlike you. You are saying they are irrelevant because you don't like the content as it shows you are wrong.

Really? They rarely end up with long term life limiting conditions.

Which goes against your self delusion of infallibility.

[papasmurf]

Maybe they do, but you have not heard about it.

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/flu-long-term-effects

https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/brain-problems-from-swine-flu/

Frankly neither of those links is relevant, they are specific cases.