Not before time

[johnofgwent]

It is simple and straight forward as that. And why the Scottish Government has not went down that road is beyond me.

Well, don't let me stop you. Start crowdfunding. Ill go buy some popcorn.

[Jaydee]

No, that is not how it works Jaydee.

It is simple and straight forward as that. And why the Scottish Government has not went down that road is beyond me.

[Thomas]

No, that is not how it works Jaydee.

Even if "law and order" is devolved to the Scottish Parliament (a spot of kowtowing to the fact Scottish law has always been separate from English Law) taxation is not, in the sense the Scottish Parliament's right to levy tax is restricted to the right to ADD an additional levy to those north of the border. They cannot remove a tax imposed UK wide. And as I am sure you know, to the chagrin of Gordon Brown who threw quite a few mobile phones at walls over it, the European Union declared the television licence fee a tax which meant it had to be added to the EU-recorded tax burden of the EU citizen in that country.

Any acttion of the Scotish Parliament that led to the removal of the requirement of the scot to pay this united kingdom tax would be ultra vires.

Broadcasting will never be devolved while scotland is part of the anti democratic yookay.

I dont think its even worth getting yer knickers in a twist over to be honest john. There are many other means of tackling the BBC  , and of course we know for a long time now there has been a campaign in scotland of non payment for westminsters propaganda tax , so much so on the last set of figures , auntie has lost 10% of her scottish revenue from 2018 , around £30 million which is good stuff.

So it's perhaps not a surprise that the BBC's latest annual report shows a startling drop in licence fee revenue from Scotland. In just two years the Corporation has seen £30 million lost from Scottish viewers – almost 10% of its 2018 income and almost 40% of the total £80m it spends on Scotland – even as the Scottish population has grown.

BBC LICENCE FEE REVENUE (SCOTLAND)

2017: £321m
2018: £324m
2019: £311m
2020: £294m

And of course john , if your government goes ahead with the proposed changes to decriminalise the licence fee , that will further help.

Government could decriminalise non-payment of BBC licence fee
Culture Secretary fires warning after broadcaster decides to go ahead with plan to end free TV licences for most over-75s

https://archive.is/aPbqP

We have had this conversation before i think on this forum.

The bbc is an outdated mode of presenting propaganda , and everyone knows it.

My wife and i rarely watch auntie now  , and the kids never have.

Its days are numbered , certainly in its current from , and its once idolised halcyon days as the main go to platform for viewing and information are long gone.

[johnofgwent]

You go to court.  Which is law and order.  That costs the tax payer.  If the BBC then want to pursue the matter in a civil court.  So be it. Within hours they would have to take everybody in Scotland who owns a telly to court. Yjats a non starter.

No, that is not how it works Jaydee.

Even if "law and order" is devolved to the Scottish Parliament (a spot of kowtowing to the fact Scottish law has always been separate from English Law) taxation is not, in the sense the Scottish Parliament's right to levy tax is restricted to the right to ADD an additional levy to those north of the border. They cannot remove a tax imposed UK wide. And as I am sure you know, to the chagrin of Gordon Brown who threw quite a few mobile phones at walls over it, the European Union declared the television licence fee a tax which meant it had to be added to the EU-recorded tax burden of the EU citizen in that country.

Any acttion of the Scotish Parliament that led to the removal of the requirement of the scot to pay this united kingdom tax would be ultra vires.

[Jaydee]

https://www.parliament.scot/visitandlearn/12506.aspx

"law and order" may be devolved, but BROADCATING is not. Your idea is a non starter

You go to court.  Which is law and order.  That costs the tax payer.  If the BBC then want to pursue the matter in a civil court.  So be it. Within hours they would have to take everybody in Scotland who owns a telly to court. Yjats a non starter. 

[papasmurf]

BROADCATING

The mind boggles.

[johnofgwent]

https://www.parliament.scot/visitandlearn/12506.aspx

"law and order" may be devolved, but BROADCATING is not. Your idea is a non starter

[Jaydee]

At last I see 4 SNP MPs, Kenny MacAskill, Angus McNeill, Douglas Chapman and Neil Harvey are ready to back a licence boycott of the BBC fee with Scottish viewers. But why do that.  Just insist that the First Minister puts before the Scottish Parliament a bill to abolish the fee in Scotland. It is quite straight forward.  Although Broadcasting is a retained matter.  Law and order is devolved.  A simple matter of making it a non offence.  I consider it nothing but state sponsored terrorism, that you could be jailed because you own a telly. Without doubt the BBC should be called the EBC The analysis, published by the Scottish Parliament's Information Centre (Spice), found the BBC raised just under £324m last year from licence fee payers in Scotland, but spent £223m – 69% – in Scotland with the remaining £101m directed to headquarters. The percentage was down from 72% during 2016/17.  In other words, an independent Scotland, if it charged the same licence fee as now, would be able to spend THREE TIMES as much on the SBC as the BBC will be doing on BBC Scotland if we vote and still have millions in the coffers to spare. And time long past for broadcasting to be devolved.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18786727.full-mps-letter-bbc-director-general-threatening-back-fee-boycott/