Who Will Buy Mark's Kettles?

Started by Cor Blimey!, October 13, 2020, 02:29:35 PM

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Cor Blimey!

Quote from: GerryT on October 14, 2020, 12:54:42 AM
Don't you know he's a maths genius.

I take it you're using the word 'genius' in the same way it's applied to Boris Johnson?
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GerryT

Quote from: Cor Blimey! on October 14, 2020, 12:32:28 AMThat's gonna be waaaaay too complicated for Nick, Gerry.

Don't you know he's a maths genius.

Cor Blimey!

Quote from: GerryT on October 14, 2020, 12:30:30 AM
The UK only produces 55% of the food it consumes each day, that's a lot of bananas and pineapples.

The main reason for a trade deal is to maximise exports, imports are of less value to an economy. To get a good trade deal you say 'you can access of our market of x pounds if you give us access to your market of y pounds. If all your offering a country is access to your market of bananas and pineapples they the country your talking to might only give you access to their market of ski gear and Betty's hot pot. Prob not the largest of markets.

On the other hand when Johnson said 'fu\k business' he prob had plans to open up the UK market and to hell with local UK manufacturers, did anyone ask him his plan when he said F business.

That's gonna be waaaaay too complicated for Nick, Gerry.
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GerryT

Quote from: nick on October 13, 2020, 11:59:39 PMYou buy the stuff you don't grow in the U.K. like bananas or pineapples.

The UK only produces 55% of the food it consumes each day, that's a lot of bananas and pineapples.

The main reason for a trade deal is to maximise exports, imports are of less value to an economy. To get a good trade deal you say 'you can access of our market of x pounds if you give us access to your market of y pounds. If all your offering a country is access to your market of bananas and pineapples they the country your talking to might only give you access to their market of ski gear and Betty's hot pot. Prob not the largest of markets.

On the other hand when Johnson said 'fu\k business' he prob had plans to open up the UK market and to hell with local UK manufacturers, did anyone ask him his plan when he said F business.

Cor Blimey!

Quote from: nick on October 13, 2020, 11:33:17 PM
But at least she's not pretending to be Canadian.

If you think that just call me a Plastic Canadian. I won't be insulted. You people really are gentle with your insults.
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Cor Blimey!

Quote from: nick on October 13, 2020, 11:54:16 PM
I'm sure the government will help them out,  cheaper than 3000 extra people on the dole.
No wonder the EU are desperate for a level playing field. Oh well.

I always wondered what the Sun-lit uplands would look like. The UK government paying Nissan and Toyota's wages. It's easy to see why you'd want that.
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GerryT

Quote from: nick on October 13, 2020, 11:54:16 PMI'm sure the government will help them out,  cheaper than 3000 extra people on the dole.
No wonder the EU are desperate for a level playing field. Oh well.
May has helped Nissan, what was it about 60m brown envelope, your suggesting that Johnson throw more money at them.

What your not considering is why on gods earth would Nissan make cars they can't sell.
Someone in the EU can buy a Nissan direct from Japan tariff free, why buy from the UK and pay more money ?  That FTA came into force 1 Feb 2019. The tariff on cars at 10% will be reduced each year to 0% by 2032. This will also affect Toyota and Honda also manufactured in the UK.

Nick

Quote from: GerryT on October 13, 2020, 11:56:18 PM
Funny you say that but posters on here, can't remember and prob not you have been relishing the idea of global Britain being able to get cheaper product/food from around the globe. So Mark isn't in luck if there's any pot makers in the world.
I know you can protect the markets that you want, but what would that leave if you tariff everything coming in. If you protect your large home industries why would a 3rd country do a deal with you if all that's left is a large pocket of small sectors, not very attractive.

You buy the stuff you don't grow in the U.K. like bananas or pineapples.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

GerryT

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 13, 2020, 08:17:26 PMFar from it ,we want good quality British goods . If  Mark existed he would be on a winner
Funny you say that but posters on here, can't remember and prob not you have been relishing the idea of global Britain being able to get cheaper product/food from around the globe. So Mark isn't in luck if there's any pot makers in the world.
I know you can protect the markets that you want, but what would that leave if you tariff everything coming in. If you protect your large home industries why would a 3rd country do a deal with you if all that's left is a large pocket of small sectors, not very attractive.

Nick

Quote from: GerryT on October 13, 2020, 11:47:55 PM
No I mean this Nissan.

On Wednesday, Ashwani Gupta, the Japanese company's global chief operating officer, said that with the EU being the Sunderland factory's biggest customer, the tariffs that would come with a no-deal Brexit would mean manufacturing in Britain would not be viable.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/03/nissan-sunderland-plant-at-risk-if-uk-leaves-eu-without-deal-brexit

I'm sure the government will help them out,  cheaper than 3000 extra people on the dole.
No wonder the EU are desperate for a level playing field. Oh well.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

GerryT

Quote from: nick on October 13, 2020, 11:26:26 PM
This the same Nissan that has closed its factory in Barcelona ready for the parts to come directly from Japan through our new trade deal. You mean that Nissan?
No I mean this Nissan.

On Wednesday, Ashwani Gupta, the Japanese company's global chief operating officer, said that with the EU being the Sunderland factory's biggest customer, the tariffs that would come with a no-deal Brexit would mean manufacturing in Britain would not be viable.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/03/nissan-sunderland-plant-at-risk-if-uk-leaves-eu-without-deal-brexit

Nick

Quote from: Cor Blimey! on October 13, 2020, 06:33:38 PM
You're an expert in body language? What are your qualifications? Do you have a masters in the subject? a P.hd? Toots? That suggests Tutu. Ballet. Stick to what you know.

But at least she's not pretending to be Canadian.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Nick

Quote from: Cor Blimey! on October 13, 2020, 03:46:40 PM
Exactly, Gerry. Streetwalker's suggestion still leaves Mark on the dole queue.

Mark's known we were leaving for over 4 years, if he can't put the work in to protect his business its his own fault his business goes pop.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Nick

Quote from: GerryT on October 13, 2020, 03:18:02 PMBut Nissia have said a no deal and their off.

This the same Nissan that has closed its factory in Barcelona ready for the parts to come directly from Japan through our new trade deal. You mean that Nissan?
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Cor Blimey!

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 13, 2020, 08:17:26 PM
Far from it ,we want good quality British goods . If  Mark existed he would be on a winner

Where has that nation of shopkeepers gone?
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