Metropolitan Police will record ethnicity of people stopped in traffic checks

Started by Barry, January 18, 2021, 04:38:17 PM

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Streetwalker

Quote from: Sampanviking on February 02, 2021, 08:39:47 AM
I think they should also note the Nationality of the car being driven. Is a Japanese Car more likely to be stopped than a German? Is a Korean Car more likely to be pulled than a Swedish one? Is a Travant ever stopped? Could they even tell if it was moving?
I think these are the types of important questions that Police should collect data on.

No point ,they are all German with black windows being driven by people who need  driving lessons .

Sampanviking

I think they should also note the Nationality of the car being driven. Is a Japanese Car more likely to be stopped than a German? Is a Korean Car more likely to be pulled than a Swedish one? Is a Travant ever stopped? Could they even tell if it was moving?
I think these are the types of important questions that Police should collect data on.

johnofgwent

Quote from: Barry on January 19, 2021, 10:28:14 AM
I wonder how far this will go, will they be recording when they stop Canadians, for example?
Or is it just brown people, innit.


Are there no brown Canadians ? Damn are you saying Uncle Tom's Cabin was fiction and none of the slaves made it to Canada ?


In another thread a few hours ago I posted a link to a CPS report that amassed the numbers showing an over representation of blacks stopped and searched, arrested and charged.


The problem for the woke left is that same over representation continued when the CPS looked at the convictions as Nd the prison population. Which means a jury that sure as hell wasn't pale and male found them guilty ....


If the allegations of over enthusiasm in selecting persons of non white ethnic origin were well founded, the CPS would have been able to trumpet it - and surely would - by advertising the point where the justice system either had not enough to charge, not enough to convict, or not enough to throw the convicted in the slammer ...



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Borchester

Quote from: Streetwalker on January 21, 2021, 07:31:31 AM
I dont think they have criminal minds Barry that gives them far too much credit  .

Quite.

Most of us kick up the dust, maybe get into a fights because that is what you do when you are a lad and then met a girl, start a family and grow up.

And that is the problem. These guys never grow up. We can blame the police or the government or racism or the lack of fibre in their diets, but at the end of the day the problem is that most of the folk who stab each other are immature morons and there is not a lot that can be done about that.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Barry on January 20, 2021, 11:18:06 PM
That must mean they are 3x more likely to have a criminal mind.

I dont think they have criminal minds Barry that gives them far too much credit  .

Barry

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Nick

Will the results be issued along with stats on how many knives were found, ethnicity of knife carrier. How many crimes were committed and ethnicity.

If you dig really deep you can find some stats that show, Black men are arrested 3 times more than white men, but the prosecutions are 3 times more. The convictions are 3 times more and the prison population is 3 times more, all per 1000 people.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Barry on January 19, 2021, 10:28:14 AM
I wonder how far this will go, will they be recording when they stop Canadians, for example?
Or is it just brown people, innit.

Well they have never enquired  in the past Barry as to my Nationality .  ;)   so  Ill have to get back to you on that one .  It does seem to be based on Ethnicity though not nationality .
Its going to be toxic subject , the black community think they are being racially profiled when at the same time being the perpetrators of most street crime ,muggings and knife crime .

So would we expect most stops to be with regard to who is committing the crimes ?

Barry

Quote from: Streetwalker on January 19, 2021, 09:57:04 AM
As long as recording who they stop doesn't turn into being told who they can stop would be the only concern .  Addressing concerns is one thing ,changing policy of targeting those most likely to be offending is another .
I wonder how far this will go, will they be recording when they stop Canadians, for example?
Or is it just brown people, innit.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Barry on January 18, 2021, 04:38:17 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/18/met-police-to-start-recording-ethnicity-of-people-stopped-in-cars

Sadiq Khan tweeted:
The @metpoliceuk and I have listened and responded to the continued frustrations of black Londoners - who are six times more likely to be stopped.

This pilot will help us start to assess - and address - concerns about racial profiling & disproportionality.


I wonder what difference it will make. More hamstringing for the Police?
Perhaps it will promote a fairer policing model, but will it bring down knife and violent crime in London?

As long as recording who they stop doesn't turn into being told who they can stop would be the only concern .  Addressing concerns is one thing ,changing policy of targeting those most likely to be offending is another .

Barry

Quote from: Borchester on January 18, 2021, 08:51:16 PMthe rest of us get on with our lives in one of the safest and most pleasant cities in the world.
I think you are right. Whenever I come to London I feel pretty safe, but then I'm not a gangsta dealling da drugs.
I'm probably going to a museum or trying to get from London Bridge to a more civilised station, like Euston. :)
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Borchester

Quote from: Barry on January 18, 2021, 04:38:17 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/18/met-police-to-start-recording-ethnicity-of-people-stopped-in-cars

Sadiq Khan tweeted:
The @metpoliceuk and I have listened and responded to the continued frustrations of black Londoners - who are six times more likely to be stopped.

This pilot will help us start to assess - and address - concerns about racial profiling & disproportionality.


I wonder what difference it will make. More hamstringing for the Police?
Perhaps it will promote a fairer policing model, but will it bring down knife and violent crime in London?

Khan is a waste of space, but the opposition is worse so he should be ok.

Knife and violent crime is not a problem in London. The rubbish kill the rubbish in the rubbish areas and the rest of us get on with our lives in one of the safest and most pleasant cities in the world.
Algerie Francais !

Barry

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/18/met-police-to-start-recording-ethnicity-of-people-stopped-in-cars

Sadiq Khan tweeted:
The @metpoliceuk and I have listened and responded to the continued frustrations of black Londoners - who are six times more likely to be stopped.

This pilot will help us start to assess - and address - concerns about racial profiling & disproportionality.


I wonder what difference it will make. More hamstringing for the Police?
Perhaps it will promote a fairer policing model, but will it bring down knife and violent crime in London?
† The end is nigh †