Sweden drops Assange rape case

[Churchill]

He was jailed before the Swedes finally withdrew to sexual offences charge, IMO jailed for Contempt of Court he was lucky he did not get the full 2 years, Assage himself made it political as I see it by seeking sanctuary in the Ecuadorian Embassy selected because there is no extradition with the UK.

[Barry]

I agree , however as I understand it sexual offences in Sweden are not that harsh in comparison to other nations, especially if compensation is paid to the victim.



Our Court may have rejected Sweden's extradition request but the hearing never finished the Court did not hand down a decision because he skipped bail and hid in the Embassy, he is inside now doing time for his Contempt of our Court system down to him, he lost his bottle IMO

Agree with JoG's point on his behaviour whilst in "Ecuador".  :barf:

Although it could be argued that being locked up for failing to answer bail is rather strange as the substantive offence has been withdrawn. It's all very political, isn't it?

[Churchill]

On that specific issue, if it had been within my power to do so I would have seen him packed off to Sweden to answer the charges and if guilty left to rot in THEIR prison for it and not until that punishment had been fully meted out should any question of rendition be considered.

I agree , however as I understand it sexual offences in Sweden are not that harsh in comparison to other nations, especially if compensation is paid to the victim.



Our Court may have rejected Sweden's extradition request but the hearing never finished the Court did not hand down a decision because he skipped bail and hid in the Embassy, he is inside now doing time for his Contempt of our Court system down to him, he lost his bottle IMO

[johnofgwent]

I agree he has brought this on himself, by his actions and releasing classified information supplied by others that may have undermined the efforts of people working under cover for their nations around the world, he may have put them in danger we will never know if he did or what happened to them



He may have considered himself to be a Caped Crusader holding other nations to account especially the great Satan America for doing something he considered wrong, when he became the accused and his actions in Sweden were in question, he ran away whilst under investigation.



Sweden like ourselves has a good fair legal system, if he had explained his side of the story in relation to his sexual exploits he may never have been charged, or if he had been he would have had a fair trial.



He came to the UK instead , because a European Warrant for his arrest had been obtained he was arrested here for extradition proceeding to be held he being on bail ran away again and hid in the Embassy.



IMO the Swedes or ourselves would not have extradited him to America if he faced the death penalty or undue severity of sentence if convicted , now he may be competent enough to face trial anyway or any where

On that specific issue, if it had been within my power to do so I would have seen him packed off to Sweden to answer the charges and if guilty left to rot in THEIR prison for it and not until that punishment had been fully meted out should any question of rendition be considered.

[Churchill]

I agree he has brought this on himself, by his actions and releasing classified information supplied by others that may have undermined the efforts of people working under cover for their nations around the world, he may have put them in danger we will never know if he did or what happened to them



He may have considered himself to be a Caped Crusader holding other nations to account especially the great Satan America for doing something he considered wrong, when he became the accused and his actions in Sweden were in question, he ran away whilst under investigation.



Sweden like ourselves has a good fair legal system, if he had explained his side of the story in relation to his sexual exploits he may never have been charged, or if he had been he would have had a fair trial.



He came to the UK instead , because a European Warrant for his arrest had been obtained he was arrested here for extradition proceeding to be held he being on bail ran away again and hid in the Embassy.



IMO the Swedes or ourselves would not have extradited him to America if he faced the death penalty or undue severity of sentence if convicted , now he may be competent enough to face trial anyway or any where

[johnofgwent]

Here's a question for you.



Let us suppose for a moment you are pursued by a vexatious state for an act you insist you did not commit, and you fear that should the state gain posession of you, they will lose no time in extraordinarily renditioning you to a place where they can quietly have fun with you for making their life hell.



Now let us suppose you find yourself in a position where for its own political reasons, a country with which you have no direct connection wishes to offer you protection from that vexatious pursuit.



You gratefully accept.



Now, do you



a) spend the vast amount of free time you now have on your hands researching in detail the political alignment and stance on the world stage if any of your new found host, take every possible opportunity to learn their history, their culture, and their language, and commence a campaign of painting their government and their head of state in the most beneficial, forward thinking light you can possibly find to shine upon them ... to the point that they can see it might be worth their while to make you a member of their diplomatic staff, or at least give you a high profile as a defender of that country's stance on the world stage...



Or do you



b) spend your whole time being a bloody embarrassment, abuse their hospitality and insult their president



Because i know which of those I would do, and I know which of those Assange did ...



He is a prize tw@t who has brought his current misfortune upon himself by behaving as he did after his flight to an ecuadorian prison on uk soil.

[Barry]

Thanks, Churchill. Interesting report.  :hattip

Before the Twilight Zone people appear, may I say how convenient it might be were he to die of some mysterious disease before being extradited?

[Churchill]

Julian Assange

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50473792">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50473792

It got dropped before. Then Obama got it revived and now Assange is about to be released, they've dropped it again.

Is this to enable a clear run for the USA to extradite him?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/14/julian-assange-to-remain-in-jail-pending-extradition-to-us">//https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/14/julian-assange-to-remain-in-jail-pending-extradition-to-us



The WikiLeaks founder would have been released from HMP Belmarsh on 22 September, Westminster magistrates court heard on Friday, but he was told he would be kept in jail because of "substantial grounds" for believing he would abscond again.

Assange, 48, who is an Australian citizen, appeared by video-link wearing a loose-fitting T-shirt.

District judge Vanessa Baraitser told him]



I expect he'll never see the proper light of day again.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/14/julian-assange-to-face-us-extradition-hearing-in-uk-next-year">//https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/14/julian-assange-to-face-us-extradition-hearing-in-uk-next-year

He may not according to numerous Doctors around the world and in the UK he is very ill and may die, they recommend that he be transferred to a specialist hospital for treatment.



Julian Assange 'could die in Belmarsh': 60 medics write to Home Sec https://mol.im/a/7721073">https://mol.im/a/7721073 via @MailOnline

[Baron von Lotsov]

Wikileaks has also been used by foreign intelligence services for dropping misleading information on, for one reason or another. Russia is a favourite for this sort of thing. Russia might drop real information their intelligence services had gathered about Uncle Sam as a well, but when dealing with these circles you never have the foggiest what is true and what is not. I guess some of it is, because of the way Uncle Sam reacts. Russians are like master game players. If they do that, it would be for some wider strategy, of which we know nothing.

[Barry]

Julian Assange

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50473792">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50473792

It got dropped before. Then Obama got it revived and now Assange is about to be released, they've dropped it again.

Is this to enable a clear run for the USA to extradite him?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/14/julian-assange-to-remain-in-jail-pending-extradition-to-us">//https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/14/julian-assange-to-remain-in-jail-pending-extradition-to-us



The WikiLeaks founder would have been released from HMP Belmarsh on 22 September, Westminster magistrates court heard on Friday, but he was told he would be kept in jail because of "substantial grounds" for believing he would abscond again.

Assange, 48, who is an Australian citizen, appeared by video-link wearing a loose-fitting T-shirt.

District judge Vanessa Baraitser told him]



I expect he'll never see the proper light of day again.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/14/julian-assange-to-face-us-extradition-hearing-in-uk-next-year">//https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/14/julian-assange-to-face-us-extradition-hearing-in-uk-next-year