Tony B Liar the immunoligist

[Barry]

Didnt Astro Zeneca, claim one dose gave a 60% immunity  of its own. Which was considered enough for most people ? They only realised it was more effective afterwards if two doses were involved.  The German , vaccine doesn't, work without two doses, but if the article is read without the obvious bias displayed on Twitter, it's obvious Blair was advocating getting 60% cover into as many as possible. Once it is given the go ahead. Is it now to be thought the 60% claim was twaddle, by all those keen to blast Blair.?

I was wrong about this, in the OP.
Blair was right and the WHO have now stated that this strategy is very good to bring in protection rapidly and very effectively.
One dose. then 8 to 12 weeks before the 2nd.

[Good old]

That's not how the BMA sees it,GP reps and virologists.

Your prerogative to support the despicable creature,someone I once voted for,had high hopes of and along with many others who did the same despise the odious creature he is now.

A man who briefed against his own nations govt with the eu,tell me how he and his foundation represent anything other than him and his self aggrandisement, can you point out where his vaunted support of the Arab Spring has done anything other than worsen their lot added to by his war .....How did they help Iraq its people and others in that area and how did it do nothing other than worsen the hatred of the west and promote terrorism?

With regard to the critics of the proposed method of use of the vaccine. It would be surprising if there were none. It would however be catastrophic if the MHRA. we're not competent enough to know when the risks in the decisions they  make are in fact absolutely negligible .
My comments on this are based on  this subject alone. Not his record .I'm well aware of his failings. But then I'm well aware of Johnson,s. Thatchers, Cameron's,. If Cameron, had made the same comment as Blair did  I would support him if he was not wrong to make that statement, without  mention of Libya, oh, I just have.

[patman post]

Or maybe it's because they don't want to lose their good name, if they have one, because of some ex-politician who thinks he knows better.

It's obviously a quandary deciding who's the biggest ogre with the worst ulterior motives — a disgraced politician, or Big Pharma,  especially as they both have support for their ideas...

[Barry]

Maybe it's because at £25 a shot, Pfizer and BioNTech want to make sure their orders are honored...

Or maybe it's because they don't want to lose their good name, if they have one, because of some ex-politician who thinks he knows better.

[cromwell]

In the first place. If Blair , is wrong, as you say , then who else? This is no longer a question of of a faded ex PM getting something stupidly wrong. If he was wrong then god help us ,because there is a strong , and what should be a reliable section of opinion happy to use this vaccine in the way ,the MHRA, and our present government propose to do.
The MHRA, are respected world wide for there abilities, the are not in the business of taking ridiculous risk. There must be very strong scientific evidence to say the make up of these vaccines, makes them suitable for using in the way the Goverment , proposes.
The manufacturers , need to make these statements, as an insurance against anything that might be treated as their fault in the future.. MHRA, have only this day said they see no problem. One thing for certain a lopsided attack on Blair, for proposing the vaccines use in this way was not valid, as he is now joined by the MHRA.

That's not how the BMA sees it,GP reps and virologists.

Your prerogative to support the despicable creature,someone I once voted for,had high hopes of and along with many others who did the same despise the odious creature he is now.

A man who briefed against his own nations govt with the eu,tell me how he and his foundation represent anything other than him and his self aggrandisement, can you point out where his vaunted support of the Arab Spring has done anything other than worsen their lot added to by his war .....How did they help Iraq its people and others in that area and how did it do nothing other than worsen the hatred of the west and promote terrorism?

[Good old]

Goalposts put back in their correct place and Baz hits the back of the net.

Only if the MHRA, are totally unfit for the purpose they are employed for have the posts moved . According to them Blair, said nothing that should be criticised .

[Good old]

Pfizer and BioNTech hit back at MHRA's proposed vaccination schedule.
Th e UK's medicine regulator said the two jabs could be given 12 weeks apart, rather than three, in order to speed up the vaccine rollout.
Both Pfizer and BioNTech say their vaccines were designed to be given 21 days apart.
Pfizer released a statement:
"The safety and efficacy of the vaccine has not been evaluated on different dosing schedules."
"There are no data to demonstrate that protection after the first dose is sustained after 21 days"
Therefore Bliar is wrong.

In the first place. If Blair , is wrong, as you say , then who else? This is no longer a question of of a faded ex PM getting something stupidly wrong. If he was wrong then god help us ,because there is a strong , and what should be a reliable section of opinion happy to use this vaccine in the way ,the MHRA, and our present government propose to do.
The MHRA, are respected world wide for there abilities, the are not in the business of taking ridiculous risk. There must be very strong scientific evidence to say the make up of these vaccines, makes them suitable for using in the way the Goverment , proposes.
The manufacturers , need to make these statements, as an insurance against anything that might be treated as their fault in the future.. MHRA, have only this day said they see no problem. One thing for certain a lopsided attack on Blair, for proposing the vaccines use in this way was not valid, as he is now joined by the MHRA.

[patman post]

Pfizer and BioNTech hit back at MHRA's proposed vaccination schedule.
Th e UK's medicine regulator said the two jabs could be given 12 weeks apart, rather than three, in order to speed up the vaccine rollout.
Both Pfizer and BioNTech say their vaccines were designed to be given 21 days apart.
Pfizer released a statement:
"The safety and efficacy of the vaccine has not been evaluated on different dosing schedules."
"There are no data to demonstrate that protection after the first dose is sustained after 21 days"
Therefore Bliar is wrong.

Maybe it's because at £25 a shot, Pfizer and BioNTech want to make sure their orders are honored...

[cromwell]

Goalposts put back in their correct place and Baz hits the back of the net.

[Barry]

Oh ,dear Barry, the point is the goalposts did not move . Whoever was taking shots missed . That's all. I merely remark on that .

Pfizer and BioNTech hit back at MHRA's proposed vaccination schedule.
Th e UK's medicine regulator said the two jabs could be given 12 weeks apart, rather than three, in order to speed up the vaccine rollout.
Both Pfizer and BioNTech say their vaccines were designed to be given 21 days apart.
Pfizer released a statement:
"The safety and efficacy of the vaccine has not been evaluated on different dosing schedules."
"There are no data to demonstrate that protection after the first dose is sustained after 21 days"
Therefore Bliar is wrong.

[Good old]

Oh look, the goalposts have now moved to look like you have scored!

Oh ,dear Barry, the point is the goalposts did not move . Whoever was taking shots missed . That's all. I merely remark on that .

[Thomas]

..and of course this story doing the rounds ...

Tony Blair 'will be given a knighthood' to 'unblock' the honours system for politicians who came later and are still waiting for a gong because of Queen's 'dislike of him', sources say

    Sources have said that officials wish to correct the imbalance in those honoured
    Tory politicians hold 22 and Labour four of the 102 current highest honours 
    Blair angered senior royals with his handling of the death of Diana in 1997

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9091145/Queens-dislike-Tony-Blair-bed-blocking-honours-system.html


The man is a feckin scum bag.

[Thomas]

EU SHOCK: How Tony Blair was PAID by EU before helping to DOUBLE UK's budget contribution

how Tony Blair became the third British politician to be awarded the Charlemagne Prize 20 years ago, in recognition of his service to European integration.

According to a 1999 report by The Independent, the prize came with a cash reward worth £1,850 – the equivalent of £3,000 today – was given to Mr Blair in the city of Aachen, Charlemagne's birthplace, for his "active and constructive" role in European integration.

Tony Blair, who already in 1975 voted for Europe in the referendum, is the embodiment of this new and intensive turn towards Europe.

"From the beginning of his office Tony Blair clearly voiced the Europe-friendly attitude of his government."

Mr Blair was also praised for the "Third Way", the modernising zeal of his administration, and for bridging the gap between liberalism and socialism.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1133860/brexit-news-eu-theresa-may-deal-european-union-tony-blair-charlemagne-prize-spt




   

Thank you Mr Blair for sacrificing a large chunk of the British rebate in return for absolutely nothing

    Nigel Farage

[Barry]

I don't trust the Tories or their pet dog, the Torygraph. Impossible to know the truth behind this story. A problem that applies to so much more the rag churns out.
Unlike  the story concerning Blair,  advocating the roll out of one dose of Astra Zeneca, vaccine, where we now know the criticism shown in the OP was not warranted as it was incorrect. As what he suggested is now , to be government policy in the use of the vaccine.

Oh look, the goalposts have now moved to look like you have scored!

[Thomas]

I don't trust the Tories or their pet dog, the Torygraph. Impossible to know the truth behind this story. A problem that applies to so much more the rag churns out.
Unlike  the story concerning Blair,  advocating the roll out of one dose of Astra Zeneca, vaccine, where we now know the criticism shown in the OP was not warranted as it was incorrect. As what he suggested is now , to be government policy in the use of the vaccine.

i have always been a big advocate in tony blair getting re involved in politics good old.

Im sure it isnt going to do the covid 19 vaccination process any good , but the more he opens his mouth , the more people despise anything he says.

All across twitter people are asking whats he all about? is he after a gong or something?

The cynicism that follows blair about is feckin brilliant at times.

He was a great help to brexiters with his interventions during the brexit referendum.