What BLM has really done.

[B-4]

They make millions by racially attacking white people and bending over to Corporate Fascists. They've shown the country just how anti-white racist and greedy they really are, whilst expecting everyone to abide by America's CRT lunacy.  A group of lazy good for nothings who wouldn't get anywhere in life without playing the victim.

There is no debate, because anyone who challenges them are attacked and accused of racism, before being cancelled. The fact that many people don't support BLM is not racism, but a BLM supporter will say it is because they depend on screaming racism.  We saw this with that American co-founder who screamed racism when people questioned why she took all the money and ran.

Also, just because the law may refuse to recognise black racism for what it is does not mean racism has disappeared.  BLM is dependent on their skin colour to further themselves under a totalitarian system, and that silencing people and serving their corporate masters will only create two parallel narratives.  The corporate fascist BLM one, which is big money, and the real one that people whisper about.

[patman post]

I don't agree with that: For me, the BLM movement got people talking about the BLM movement, nothing else. It certainly gave a platform for the racists within the black community to openly hate white people with no accountability. It also gave an opportunity for "Rent-a-mob" to go out on the street and destroy stuff with impunity, where was Swampy?

Non racist people don't need to talk about racism, the racists don't care and are not listening anyway.

Unsurprisingly, I profoundly disagree. I start from the position that if the hadn't been racial discrimination in this country there'd have been no need to invoke the law to outlaw it. Any resulting confrontations from people in the UK being moved to respond to the simple cry, Black Lives Matter, are to be expected in a society that throws up organisations with such divergent views as Runnymede Trust and Stormfront. 
Racists are listening to the the arguments and reports of BLM stances on racism. That's why they are reacting and trying to drown out debate...

[patman post]

I was not referring to the memorial PLAQUE I knew that existed.

I was asking where were the marches, the news coverage, the MPs shouting that their outrage continues.

A black career criminal who has f**k all to do with this country has got all of that. Why ?


Rigby has been the victim of deliberate institutionalised Avoidance of the unfortunate fact a white soldier was slaughtered and butchered by two black Moslems because it is "Uncomfortable" for the persons in authority to admit it.

White lives don't matter and the anniversary of Rigbys slaughter and the lack of official or community protest about it compared to the Bollix spouted by the beeb and the Gruniad for Floyd PROVES it

Smart wriggle, but not unexpected.

Have you done anything to commemorate Lee Rigby's slaughter other than use as a point scoring reference on this forum? It takes concerted effort and persuasion to get any commemorative events and memorials of the ground in this country.
And it should also take the feelings of the victims next of kin into account (you can check those in Lee Rigby's case in the link I provided)...

[Nick]

[BLM's] got many more people talking about the inequalities caused by racism — even some who never bothered to think about it before or considered its consequences.

I don't agree with that: For me, the BLM movement got people talking about the BLM movement, nothing else. It certainly gave a platform for the racists within the black community to openly hate white people with no accountability. It also gave an opportunity for "Rent-a-mob" to go out on the street and destroy stuff with impunity, where was Swampy?

Non racist people don't need to talk about racism, the racists don't care and are not listening anyway.

[johnofgwent]

I think the first two paragraphs in my first post in this thread are an adequate response: 

[BLM's] got many more people talking about the inequalities caused by racism — even some who never bothered to think about it before or considered its consequences.

OK, it's also given those who have prejudiced feelings against others because of race or religion, an extended platform to voice their views. But I guess we can all live with that. And it's also made a few people uncomfortable about the benefits some organisation and people gain from their privileges. 

If it's relevant to this particular debate: on the disgusting murder of Lee Rigby — I understand why you highlight that over say, Jo Cox — but why haven't you bothered to check if there is a memorial before going off on one...? 
https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/article/1421/statement_on_lee_rigby_memorial

I was not referring to the memorial PLAQUE I knew that existed.

I was asking where were the marches, the news coverage, the MPs shouting that their outrage continues.

A black career criminal who has f**k all to do with this country has got all of that. Why ?


Rigby has been the victim of deliberate institutionalised Avoidance of the unfortunate fact a white soldier was slaughtered and butchered by two black Moslems because it is "Uncomfortable" for the persons in authority to admit it.

White lives don't matter and the anniversary of Rigbys slaughter and the lack of official or community protest about it compared to the Bollix spouted by the beeb and the Gruniad for Floyd PROVES it

[patman post]

As a rebuttal to your post I would have thought that obvious.


As I clearly have to spell it out


You suggest BLM have got many more people considering racism and inequality


I say that is bullshit


The current take the knee crap in football is a point of note.


Football, at all levels, has had a "kick it out" cosign on racism in the game for quite a while but now it seems the death of s career criminal in a country that doesn't even play the bloody game is a trigger for fawning subservience


f**k that


All BLM have done is given Britain's institutional racists Diane Abbott and David Lammy and their fan club, more oxygen.


And probably given Saint Doreen of Lawrence an excuse to collect a few thousand quid in attendance allowance at the OAP crèche.


I am struck by the fact it was the anniversary of the slaughter of Lee Rigby by two black Moslem activists a few days ago.


Where was HIS memorial


The fact the family of the BLM activist who campaigned ferociously for the police to be refunded and disbanded are now whingeing they are not pulling their weight over her bring shot in the head, while Flabbot insists on calling Ng urban anti BLM hate crime when everyone knows she was shot up by a bunch of black gangstas shows the utter stupidity of the whole thing.


How are the investigations into the yank BLM "Marxist's" multi million dollar homes going ?

I think the first two paragraphs in my first post in this thread are an adequate response: 

[BLM's] got many more people talking about the inequalities caused by racism — even some who never bothered to think about it before or considered its consequences.

OK, it's also given those who have prejudiced feelings against others because of race or religion, an extended platform to voice their views. But I guess we can all live with that. And it's also made a few people uncomfortable about the benefits some organisation and people gain from their privileges. 

If it's relevant to this particular debate: on the disgusting murder of Lee Rigby — I understand why you highlight that over say, Jo Cox — but why haven't you bothered to check if there is a memorial before going off on one...? 
https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/article/1421/statement_on_lee_rigby_memorial

[patman post]

Racism is abhorrent in any form but this is getting away from my point that blacks people are being artificially elevated because of their skin colour.
You can't have it both ways.

Sorry about your son. It's a story that's been related elsewhere. And there's always the danger of a non-too-bright jobsworth at every level misinterpreting and misapplying recommendations and rules. But you started the thread with the statement:   

The BLM movement has now dictated that every black person will go through life never knowing if their achievements are real. They will never know that when they got their dream job whether it was on merit or because of the colour of their skin, this is a really sad state of affairs.

I don't believe that's so. I'm just one example. My mother (NHS), father (Ford) and sister (law) are also examples of working in skilled jobs and getting promotions through their abilities and efforts.
As another side of the coin, in the '70s my mother's cousin was refused a transfer from one engineering section to another in the same company and on the same north London site because the union in the second shop wouldn't have any Blacks. Perversely, the company was found to be at fault...

[johnofgwent]

No it has not what...?

As a rebuttal to your post I would have thought that obvious.


As I clearly have to spell it out


You suggest BLM have got many more people considering racism and inequality


I say that is bullshit


The current take the knee crap in football is a point of note.


Football, at all levels, has had a "kick it out" cosign on racism in the game for quite a while but now it seems the death of s career criminal in a country that doesn't even play the bloody game is a trigger for fawning subservience


f**k that


All BLM have done is given Britain's institutional racists Diane Abbott and David Lammy and their fan club, more oxygen.


And probably given Saint Doreen of Lawrence an excuse to collect a few thousand quid in attendance allowance at the OAP crèche.


I am struck by the fact it was the anniversary of the slaughter of Lee Rigby by two black Moslem activists a few days ago.


Where was HIS memorial


The fact the family of the BLM activist who campaigned ferociously for the police to be defunded and disbanded are now whingeing they are not pulling their weight over her bring shot in the head, while Flabbot insists on calling Ng urban anti BLM hate crime when everyone knows she was shot up by a bunch of black gangstas shows the utter stupidity of the whole thing.


How are the investigations into the yank BLM "Marxist's" multi million dollar homes going ?

[Nick]

So my first point is made — BLM has resulted in many more people are talking about the inequalities caused by racism. People may not like it. People may feel embarrassed by it. People may even feel anti-Black because of it. People may even feel the need to claim some association with non-Whites to justify their opinions. But my point is true — many more people are talking about racism...

Racism is abhorrent in any form but this is getting away from my point that blacks people are being artificially elevated because of their skin colour.
You can't have it both ways.

[Nick]

What BLM has really done?

It's got many more people talking about the inequalities caused by racism — even some who never bothered to think about it before or considered its consequences.


OK, it's also given those who have prejudiced feelings against others because of race or religion, an extended platform to voice their views. But I guess we can all live with that. And it's also made a few people uncomfortable about the benefits some organisation and people gain from their privileges.


On the thought that it's leading to unsuitable candidates being chosen for jobs, I don't see that legislation-backed anti-discrimination edicts giving people with the required abilities and qualifications the right to be considered for jobs and roles, has got me any job I wasn't fit for. But then, if I were White, would I ever have entertained the thought that I got my job because of my colour...?

I would hazard a guess that most people are suitable to do the job they interview for. It's about employing the best and not feeling pressured to take another candidate. As I've mentioned before, my eldest applied to join the police and was told they were only recruiting minority groups in that area, she has a masters degree.

The black population is around 3% in the UK, of which 6.3% were unemployed until covid. It's not inordinately high, especially when you compare it to say youth unemployment in Spain of 32%.

The numbers certainly don't stack up to there being a racist movement within the employment sector.

[patman post]

No it has not.


It might have got the whiny snowflake left some air time but the fact remains Harriet Hate Men actually believes this country needs fewer married grandfathers content with their lot, and more transgender people with mental issues over the equipment they had between their legs the day they were born, in charge of developing our nuclear deterrent because there are not enough mentally unstable nutters in the job.


BLM stand for violent protest and disorder, criminal damage and being allowed to get away with it because they is black innit ...


They have trashed their case by their own hand

No it has not what...?

[patman post]

Give us a break.

Academics and bad drivers have been squealing about racism since Ham got a mouthful for getting his dad drunk and pulling his trousers down.

The problem with the BLM is that the white community is beginning to run out of guilt. The Grievance Industry has had a good run but it is time to realise that nothing lasts forever.

So my first point is made — BLM has resulted in many more people are talking about the inequalities caused by racism. People may not like it. People may feel embarrassed by it. People may even feel anti-Black because of it. People may even feel the need to claim some association with non-Whites to justify their opinions. But my point is true — many more people are talking about racism...

[Borchester]

No it has not.


It might have got the whiny snowflake left some air time but the fact remains Harriet Hate Men actually believes this country needs fewer married grandfathers content with their lot, and more transgender people with mental issues over the equipment they had between their legs the day they were born, in charge of developing our nuclear deterrent because there are not enough mentally unstable nutters in the job.


BLM stand for violent protest and disorder, criminal damage and being allowed to get away with it because they is black innit ...


They have trashed their case by their own hand

In passing, for the last twenty years of my working life my office had eight managers, seven of which were always women, six black or brown and with the sole exception of my boss, all as thick as two short planks.

It did not matter a lot. You don't need brains to collect tax. But I did miss the days when women shagged their way to the top and as a result the managers were worth an ogle.

[Borchester]

What BLM has really done?

It's got many more people talking about the inequalities caused by racism — even some who never bothered to think about it before or considered its consequences.

Give us a break.

Academics and bad drivers have been squealing about racism since Ham got a mouthful for getting his dad drunk and pulling his trousers down.

The problem with the BLM is that the white community is beginning to run out of guilt. The Grievance Industry has had a good run but it is time to realise that nothing lasts forever.

[johnofgwent]

What BLM has really done?

It's got many more people talking about the inequalities caused by racism — even some who never bothered to think about it before or considered its consequences.


OK, it's also given those who have prejudiced feelings against others because of race or religion, an extended platform to voice their views. But I guess we can all live with that. And it's also made a few people uncomfortable about the benefits some organisation and people gain from their privileges.


On the thought that it's leading to unsuitable candidates being chosen for jobs, I don't see that legislation-backed anti-discrimination edicts giving people with the required abilities and qualifications the right to be considered for jobs and roles, has got me any job I wasn't fit for. But then, if I were White, would I ever have entertained the thought that I got my job because of my colour...?

No it has not.


It might have got the whiny snowflake left some air time but the fact remains Harriet Hate Men actually believes this country needs fewer married grandfathers content with their lot, and more transgender people with mental issues over the equipment they had between their legs the day they were born, in charge of developing our nuclear deterrent because there are not enough mentally unstable nutters in the job.


BLM stand for violent protest and disorder, criminal damage and being allowed to get away with it because they is black innit ...


They have trashed their case by their own hand