The EU are at it again - now targeting British workers

Started by HallowedBrexit, August 10, 2021, 12:32:26 PM

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papasmurf

Quote from: GerryT on September 07, 2021, 12:43:45 PM
Your right to check before booking but hopefully countries will start lifting restrictions in the coming months.

It is looking (at the moment,) my personal circumstances mean that I can declare I am Covid free on a downloadable form. (The are serious legal sanctions for lying.)
I am trying to confirm that bit as with most French regulations it like being walking through mud up to your waist in thick fog.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

GerryT

Quote from: papasmurf on September 07, 2021, 10:53:50 AM
There are some "interesting" rules and regulations for foreign tourists and foreign people who own property in France being applied from October.
As a property owner of a mobile home in Brittany the changes in regulation appear to be working in my favour, I have a French bank account which covers most of the requirements.  (but if I owned a house in France it would be very different, it would have a for sale sign outside.)
As for foreign tourists I can see problems,  covid free  and vaccination certification needed for restaurants and events.
I am still in the process of finding out what does and doesn't apply to me.
From an Irish perspective I have my digital covid cert which sits inside the IRL covid tracker, that allows me to freely travel around the EU and enter restaurants/pubs etc. There can still be restrictions on a country by country level but my understanding is I get treated the same as any local would. Your right to check before booking but hopefully countries will start lifting restrictions in the coming months.

You would want to check inheritance rights as been non EU that might be affected. Might be worth changing ownership or some other mechanism to try secure any property/assets you have.

papasmurf

Quote from: GerryT on September 07, 2021, 10:33:14 AM


I know what, let's blame the EU, a national hobby.

There are some "interesting" rules and regulations for foreign tourists and foreign people who own property in France being applied from October.
As a property owner of a mobile home in Brittany the changes in regulation appear to be working in my favour, I have a French bank account which covers most of the requirements.  (but if I owned a house in France it would be very different, it would have a for sale sign outside.)
As for foreign tourists I can see problems,  covid free  and vaccination certification needed for restaurants and events.
I am still in the process of finding out what does and doesn't apply to me.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

GerryT

Quote from: HallowedBrexit on August 10, 2021, 12:32:26 PM
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1474834/brexit-news-ryanair-lauda-europe-caa-EASA-stansted-airport-eu-brussels-latest

The EU are discriminating against us British. Our pilots cannot even fly our own aircraft now.

Only shows that we were right to leave.  Union Flag
If you weren't going around saying "this will be the easiest trade deal in human history"
Or if you hadn't thought "they need us more than we need them"
Or maybe if you didn't elect an idiot to run your country
Or if you didn't spend the 5yrs you had spaffing about the place and actually showed up to a couple of meetings to discuss trade.

So many if's,  but your pilots not being able to do x, y or z is totally on your inept govt not doing their job. This was know about in 2016 and long before so why didn't your govt do something about it.

I know what, let's blame the EU, a national hobby.

HDQQ

Quote from: HallowedBrexit on August 10, 2021, 12:32:26 PM
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1474834/brexit-news-ryanair-lauda-europe-caa-EASA-stansted-airport-eu-brussels-latest

The EU are discriminating against us British. Our pilots cannot even fly our own aircraft now.

Only shows that we were right to leave.  Union Flag

If we'd stayed in then the problem wouldn't have arisen. British citizen proudly flying the EU circle of stars.
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johnofgwent

Quote from: Nick on August 15, 2021, 10:03:30 PM
The trailer towing was removed when someone realised it wasn't a good idea to allow any ole bod to tow, nowt to do with construction, I still can tow and have never worked in construction as such. Motorcycle entitlement has been controlled by a separate licence forever. I passed my bike test in 1984 and then had to retake it in 2017 when I realised DVLA had screwed up and reissued my license without my bike entitlement. Happened to thousands of people.


Nick....


https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/contents/made


ROAD VEHICLES (Construction And Use).Regulations 1986 ...
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Thomas

Quote from: cromwell on August 10, 2021, 08:15:13 PM
And where best to move your posts?
The joke sector perhaps.

i dont know cromwell , i like hallowed brexit.

He is a lot more fun than gerry or javert for example. You can almost see the self loathing bitterness in each and every one of his posts. :D

5 years on and still the greeting continues because they couldnt get their way.

An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

papasmurf

Quote from: johnofgwent on August 15, 2021, 09:01:28 PM




The UK driving licence issued to me when we were very much in the EEC not the EU specifically empowered me to tow a trailer on a motorcycle.




The answer I got from the French embassy in London some years ago because I was not certain if I was allowed to tow a trailer behind a motorcycle when in France was:- "Only the English would be mad enough to do that."
(However there being no regulation against it I was able to do so.)
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Nick

Quote from: johnofgwent on August 15, 2021, 09:01:28 PM

Actually not true


The UK driving licence issued to me when we were very much in the EEC not the EU specifically empowered me to tow a trailer on a motorcycle.


We gave up those differences as part of the integration post maastricht


The entitlement to tow was moved to construction and use regs.... Which the EU probably came for as well.

The trailer towing was removed when someone realised it wasn't a good idea to allow any ole bod to tow, nowt to do with construction, I still can tow and have never worked in construction as such. Motorcycle entitlement has been controlled by a separate licence forever. I passed my bike test in 1984 and then had to retake it in 2017 when I realised DVLA had screwed up and reissued my license without my bike entitlement. Happened to thousands of people.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

johnofgwent

Quote from: Nick on August 15, 2021, 05:41:14 PM
There is shit all difference between driving licenses also but we have an agreement to allow driving.


Actually not true


The UK driving licence issued to me when we were very much in the EEC not the EU specifically empowered me to tow a trailer on a motorcycle.


We gave up those differences as part of the integration post maastricht


The entitlement to tow was moved to construction and use regs.... Which the EU probably came for as well.
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

papasmurf

Quote from: Nick on August 15, 2021, 05:41:14 PM
There is shit all difference between driving licenses also but we have an agreement to allow driving.

Up to a point, if you leave Britain to reside in an EU country you will need that country's driving licence.

Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Nick

Quote from: johnofgwent on August 14, 2021, 01:37:30 PM

If that is true, then you know there is shit all difference between EU and UK pilots. And that this refusal to accept the credentials is just ... racism

There is shit all difference between driving licenses also but we have an agreement to allow driving.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sheepy

Quote from: patman post on August 14, 2021, 02:38:41 PM
If the UK has left the EU, and is no longer part of the the EU's European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), how can it expect its own certification, licensing, regulation and standardisation, and investigation and monitoring to be accepted by the EU except by formal ratified agreement?
It looks like in the rush to get Brexit done, several important details — like civil aviation operation — were overlooked. The UK should have been aware of the regulatory requirements because it was a contributing part of EASA as the agency developed regulations for air operations, flight crew licensing and non-EU aircraft used in the EU. These  came into force in 2008. 
Hopefully, the UK's CAA still has reasonable talking relationship with EASA and they can push the UK goverment into reaching an agreement on aviation with the EU...

The EU is only bothered about its power base, we just bypass them as well, we have been doing it with our friends in Europe for years. Populism isn't going away.
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patman post

If the UK has left the EU, and is no longer part of the the EU's European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), how can it expect its own certification, licensing, regulation and standardisation, and investigation and monitoring to be accepted by the EU except by formal ratified agreement?
It looks like in the rush to get Brexit done, several important details — like civil aviation operation — were overlooked. The UK should have been aware of the regulatory requirements because it was a contributing part of EASA as the agency developed regulations for air operations, flight crew licensing and non-EU aircraft used in the EU. These  came into force in 2008. 
Hopefully, the UK's CAA still has reasonable talking relationship with EASA and they can push the UK goverment into reaching an agreement on aviation with the EU...
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johnofgwent

Quote from: Nick on August 14, 2021, 02:01:12 AM
John.

I've worked with the UK CAA for years, what are you rambling on about? It makes no sense, I thought you were a scientist?


If that is true, then you know there is shit all difference between EU and UK pilots. And that this refusal to accept the credentials is just ... racism
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>