Political Sleaze

[T00ts]

You might have a point Tommy.

Carrie Johnson appears to be still at the coal eating stage, which is fair enough for a new mum. But Boris should have given her a big hug and his credit card and then packed her off to Oxford Street to piddle away the family fortune. This running around after a bunch of tree huggers is riduculous. They don't want a better world, just the chance to whine. And does it matter if the sun shines in Glasgow?

But Boris is definitely losing it. Much more of this and he will end up like the Divine Margaret. Sorted out all the big things and ending up making a fuss over the rates.

Nothing lasts forever but I had hopes that the blond moppet would make it to Christmas.

I wonder if Rees Mogg wants a new job?

Sturgeon is simply an opportunist with the female ability to spot the chances. She has played this card every time there was an announcement on Covid from Downing St. She's not clever just determined to be seen as promoting her 'nation in waiting' credentials with the hope of holding on to power. She loves the look that she is holding the fort and telling BJ what to do. Why we decided to hold this debacle in Glasgow goodness knows. Talk about playing into her hands.
Having said that BJ is way off the mark with his once instinctive finger on the pulse of the nation. If the door closes on MPs being involved outside Parliament then I would imagine those with worthwhile qualifications and experience will quit leaving the country to be run by idealists without much to offer. People like Rees-Mogg won't even need to look for alternative employment.

[Borchester]

We will see how wee krankie fares over the next few years , but she has definetly outshone johnson big time on the world stage whatever anyone thinks of her.

You might have a point Tommy.

Carrie Johnson appears to be still at the coal eating stage, which is fair enough for a new mum. But Boris should have given her a big hug and his credit card and then packed her off to Oxford Street to piddle away the family fortune. This running around after a bunch of tree huggers is riduculous. They don't want a better world, just the chance to whine. And does it matter if the sun shines in Glasgow?

But Boris is definitely losing it. Much more of this and he will end up like the Divine Margaret. Sorted out all the big things and ending up making a fuss over the rates.

Nothing lasts forever but I had hopes that the blond moppet would make it to Christmas.

I wonder if Rees Mogg wants a new job?

[Thomas]

Recently Wee Krankie said that Climate Change was a feminist issue and a Scottish friend said that she (my Scottish friend) had enough to do without having her (Wee Krankie), putting the problems of the world on her shoulders.

Boris has been bumblingly on a lot about buggering trees or some such recently and generally acting as though anyone gave a toss.

It is an odd that two experienced politicians should think that there are votes in this Climate Change racket, but even the best slip up once in a while.

We will see how wee krankie fares over the next few years , but she has definetly outshone johnson big time on the world stage whatever anyone thinks of her.

To be fair borkie , she has made johnson look an even bigger can't than he is.

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just think mate, at this rate , sir keir will have you back in the EU in no time before you can say borkie is a european.

Wee krankie will have sir keir right in her top pocket.

[Borchester]

Recently Wee Krankie said that Climate Change was a feminist issue and a Scottish friend said that she (my Scottish friend) had enough to do without having her (Wee Krankie), putting the problems of the world on her shoulders.

Boris has been bumblingly on a lot about buggering trees or some such recently and generally acting as though anyone gave a toss.

It is an odd that two experienced politicians should think that there are votes in this Climate Change racket, but even the best slip up once in a while.

[Thomas]

I learned very early on in my dance career to 'handle' the dancer who hogged the limelight both in class and on stage. Whenever they spied competition there they would be flaunting it. Sturgeon fits the profile.

maybe , but its funny how johnson was allegedly addressing the tories before cop 26 on how sturgeon had to be kept out of the limelight and lo and behold , shes has been centre stage on much of the worlds media.

Some one said you would think johnson would have had the mother wit to give her a small job and keep her out the way , by doing nothign , he has left her free to run around .

The man really is a clown .

This is a uk hosted conference , not a scottish one , and you would think the pm of the uk would be centre stage , not the first minister of a devolved nation .

Im just wainting on some daft yank journalist calling sturgeon first minister of the uk , and i will laugh at the tories going ballistic.

[johnofgwent]

Everyone is jumping up and down because MPs are allowed to have interests outside their role as MP. I feel this is incredibly short sighted and based mostly on jealousy. I appreciate that there should be a line drawn in some areas like lobbying etc but if an MP is a lawyer, a medic of some kind or other former careers then they should be allowed to do some work in those roles to maintain their qualifications or their experience. Sadly the wimps in the Commons - hardly out of school - can only see that these chaps are making money and would be so much happier if all MPs were as lowly as they are themselves.

80k odd  is not a fair salary for the job they do. It is far lower that most professional people would earn particularly in London so reduce their expenses but give them a decent salary well over 100k. Constituency houses should belong to the constituency and used for the incumbent MP. Those MPs representing their own home constituency should live at home and a block of flats acquired in London for MPs to use when attending the House.

We need a change of attitude to recognise that we need brains, talent and life experience in Parliament as well as in education at all levels now  more than ever. With a mediocre salary measured against what can be earned outside, those with the attributes we need into Westminster are unlikely to stand for election.

The one and only time I thought Red Ken had an opinion of value was when he said one of the blocks of athletes accomodation at the Olympic park should be retained as MPs London accomodation, available to any MP, and all forms of accomodation allowance and expense should cease forthwith.

[cromwell]

Oh... So having a position within a company makes you open for corruption! OK, I understand that. Does that mean they have accepted any bribe or been involved in any corruption? NO, same as a copper on the street is open to corruption from drug dealers. They could offer him a grand to stay silent, but that's his primary job so it's ok.
Your argument doesn't hold water Mr C, you have no arguable reason why an MP having a second job is any different from a welder having a second job.

Cobblers,I know you're not hard of thinking so don't come up with lame answers.

Politicians are in a unique position especially in govt to influence  law or policy so as to be able to ensure we're they connected a business trade unfairly or with advantage by that connection.

Citing welders,Tesco employee or a bloody window cleaner is a nonsensical diversion......and you know it.

[Nick]

What's wrong with that?
Open to corruption putting a company and self before good of nation.

Oh... So having a position within a company makes you open for corruption! OK, I understand that. Does that mean they have accepted any bribe or been involved in any corruption? NO, same as a copper on the street is open to corruption from drug dealers. They could offer him a grand to stay silent, but that's his primary job so it's ok. 
Your argument doesn't hold water Mr C, you have no arguable reason why an MP having a second job is any different from a welder having a second job. 

[cromwell]

How is working for a company representing a board of directors different from representing people? People are voted onto the board in exactly the same way, only in a smaller scale.

As for a place in Westminster should attract a higher salary 😂. Joe Public baulk at every percentage rise MP's get: image if they announced a 100% rise but no second job. OMG 😳.

If I was an MP and was offered a seat on the board for half a million I'd take it in a heart beat. They'd advertise the fact that they had XYZ on the board and I'd tip up once a year with my 25 MI5 operatives and sit in the AGM. What's wrong with that?
BTW, that did happen at a place I was once at, ex chancellor at that.

What's wrong with that?
Open to corruption putting a company and self before good of nation.

[Nick]

No it isn't,how can working for a company and representing people,forming policy be compatible?

And don't start it's anti Tory I made my feelings clear about blind Pugh ID cards and shares in a biometric company.

A place in parliament should attract a higher salary and no second jobs or appointments post Westminster where you formed policy that had a major plus for companies.

How is working for a company representing a board of directors different from representing people? People are voted onto the board in exactly the same way, only in a smaller scale. 

As for a place in Westminster should attract a higher salary 😂. Joe Public baulk at every percentage rise MP's get: image if they announced a 100% rise but no second job. OMG 😳. 

If I was an MP and was offered a seat on the board for half a million I'd take it in a heart beat. They'd advertise the fact that they had XYZ on the board and I'd tip up once a year with my 25 MI5 operatives and sit in the AGM. What's wrong with that?
BTW, that did happen at a place I was once at, ex chancellor at that. 

[T00ts]

Yes maybe but that requires the services of a psychiatrist not a surgeon.

       !!!!

[cromwell]

You drive me nuts!!!

Yes maybe but that requires the services of a psychiatrist not a surgeon. 

[T00ts]

Yes but how many are surgeons?

    You drive me nuts!!!

[cromwell]

Don't put words into my mouth. I agree that we are all equal, but we are not all equal in talents or ability. Would you allow anyone but a surgeon operate on you? But if a surgeon wanted to stand as an MP he would lose his qualifications unless he maintained his surgical hours. That's the point. The same does not apply to the carer, or postman etc.

Yes but how many are surgeons? 

[T00ts]

It's entirely the point,Boris is only there because he promised brexit and the reason May was ditched.....she didn't deliver and nothing to do with jealousy or lack of potential.

And I didn't equate equality in the way you or Nick mean but don't underestimate the worth of those at the bottom of the pile,no one is above another.

Don't put words into my mouth. I agree that we are all equal, but we are not all equal in talents or ability. Would you allow anyone but a surgeon operate on you? But if a surgeon wanted to stand as an MP he would lose his qualifications unless he maintained his surgical hours. That's the point. The same does not apply to the carer, or postman etc.