France clears Dunkirk migrant camp

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Nick

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 10:27:41 PM
Just been watching the news and a some people smugglers bringing Albanians charged them £15000 each.
How many poor people here could raise that.

Someone needs to get a grip and start returning these people.
I'll take them back on my boat, I can fit 6 people at a push. That's £60K a trip! Nice ;)
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Just been watching the news and a some people smugglers bringing Albanians charged them £15000 each.
How many poor people here could raise that.

Someone needs to get a grip and start returning these people.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Barry

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 04:53:50 PM
Believe me Baz I have been in my local council offices supporting British nationals struggling to get what's theirs by right when in walks lawyer with several asylum seekers in tow waving his legal papers and are given priority.
Ah, now I get the Christian convert thing. If an asylum seeker is losing the game with the government, if they either say, or have evidence that they have converted to Christianity they cannot be safely sent back to a Muslim country, as they would be persecuted as a heretic to Islam.
Whether their conversion is genuine, or not, only they know.

It's another stay in Britain free card. 
† The end is nigh †

papasmurf

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 07:47:27 PM
Yeah of course you knew already Butt Kick
You seem certain he was on benefits, I merely wonder why you are so certain.
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cromwell

Quote from: papasmurf on November 17, 2021, 07:40:32 PM
I did not deny he was sectioned, I asked where you got the information because you did not post a link with your comment.

As for section 4 support I can't see how he qualified for that, and even if he did he would lose it after 28 days into a 6 month section.

Section 4 asylum support | NRPF (nrpfnetwork.org.uk)
Yeah of course you knew already Butt Kick
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

papasmurf

Quote from: Barry on November 17, 2021, 04:44:39 PM
I wonder if they know that, because I didn't. I dare say they are coached in our soft ways. They would never feign mental illness, now, would they? ::)
Being entitled to something from the benefits system does not mean anyone will tell you are, (it is highly unlikely the DWP will,) even if you do know being entitled to it and getting it are two very different things.
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papasmurf

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
So first off you deny he was sectioned when it was widely reported then tell me I should've informed you,why?....you are the one who claims people here are unaware of widespread media reports and are therefore ignorant........except when it's you of course.

people with mental health issues are entitled to section 4 support.
I did not deny he was sectioned, I asked where you got the information because you did not post a link with your comment.

As for section 4 support I can't see how he qualified for that, and even if he did he would lose it after 28 days into a 6 month section.

Section 4 asylum support | NRPF (nrpfnetwork.org.uk)
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T00ts

Quote from: Barry on November 17, 2021, 04:44:39 PM
I wonder if they know that, because I didn't. I dare say they are coached in our soft ways. They would never feign mental illness, now, would they? ::)
Well men of 20 and over have pretended to be children and ended up in schools where even the kids have avoided them as being too old. I just wonder who the numpties are that are taken in so easily. I reckon they are coached in all sorts of ways to make the 'best' of their arrival.

cromwell

Quote from: Barry on November 17, 2021, 04:44:39 PM
I wonder if they know that, because I didn't. I dare say they are coached in our soft ways. They would never feign mental illness, now, would they? ::)
Believe me Baz I have been in my local council offices supporting British nationals struggling to get what's theirs by right when in walks lawyer with several asylum seekers in tow waving his legal papers and are given priority.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Barry

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
people with mental health issues are entitled to section 4 support.
I wonder if they know that, because I didn't. I dare say they are coached in our soft ways. They would never feign mental illness, now, would they? ::)
† The end is nigh †

cromwell

Quote from: papasmurf on November 17, 2021, 04:28:20 PM
He benefits (assuming he had any,) would have been stopped after 28 days, so for five months out of the six he would have had no benefit. (Assuming he was ever paid any benefit in the first place or are you just assuming he was paid benefits, because access to benefits for a failed asylum seeker are very limited. (Which is probably why he was being housed by two "do gooders.")
So first off you deny he was sectioned when it was widely reported then tell me I should've informed you,why?....you are the one who claims people here are unaware of widespread media reports and are therefore ignorant........except when it's you of course.

people with mental health issues are entitled to section 4 support.


Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

papasmurf

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 04:17:45 PM
No it doesn't being sectioned only means you are compulsory committed to a psychiatric unit and have no say in the matter.
once released from that part of the mental health act does not mean you are no longer deemed to have mental health issues and as a failed asylum seeker are still eligible for benefits.
He benefits (assuming he had any,) would have been stopped after 28 days, so for five months out of the six he would have had no benefit. (Assuming he was ever paid any benefit in the first place or are you just assuming he was paid benefits, because access to benefits for a failed asylum seeker are very limited. (Which is probably why he was being housed by two "do gooders.")
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cromwell

Quote from: papasmurf on November 17, 2021, 04:12:40 PM
It would have been helpful if you has posted that link first. However a 6 month section would mean benefits (assuming he was getting any) would be stopped after 28 days.
No it doesn't being sectioned only means you are compulsory committed to a psychiatric unit and have no say in the matter.
once released from that part of the mental health act does not mean you are no longer deemed to have mental health issues and as a failed asylum seeker are still eligible for benefits.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

papasmurf

Quote from: cromwell on November 17, 2021, 04:08:14 PM
Well at least I provide proof.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-59308938
It would have been helpful if you has posted that link first. However a 6 month section would mean benefits (assuming he was getting any) would be stopped after 28 days.
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papasmurf

Quote from: johnofgwent on November 17, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
Ok here's the problem. Watch the video embedded in this.

These T**** are going to steal a pedalo off a Calais beach because "there is work in England, there is no racism in England"


They are in for big surprise if they ever get here.
Related news item:-

https://www.dw.com/en/france-decathlon-halts-canoe-sales-to-curb-migrant-crossings/a-59840768

17.11.2021

France: Decathlon halts canoe sales to curb migrant crossings

The purchases will no longer be possible in certain stores in northern France. On Friday three migrants were reported missing after trying to cross the channel in canoes.

Sports shop Decathlon has announced it will no longer sell canoes in northern France to help put a stop to migrants desperately trying to cross the English Channel, it was reported on Tuesday.

"The purchase of canoes will no longer be possible" in retail outlets in Calais and Grande-Synthe, near Dunkirk, "given the current context," Decathlon told news agency AFP, confirming French media reports that emerged earlier on Tuesday.


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