Three men arrested under prevention of terrorism act

[cromwell]

Well this shows the shambles of the asylum system here,and the consequences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60091127

[Nick]

Ah, Pears Cyclopedia! A source of much innocent fun to teenage boys before we discovered girls. And atom bombs! There was a section on that as well and we suggested that as a project to our physics teacher, but he looked into it, sighed and said sorry lads, he liked the idea but separating the isotopes would be a problem. Not the technical part. Incredibly, he could source some yellow cake, but said the school would never be able to bear the electricity bill.

I tell you, we had real science teachers in those days.

And now? I am doing a bit of work in the bathroom and need some acetone to clean the mastic off my hands. But there isn't any in Poundland because they are frightened terrorists will use it to make bombs.....

Sad stuff.

7 quid a litre on Amazon. 

[Borchester]

I have a most enthusiastic form master to thank for my engagement with chemistry.

As you say, we had real science teachers in those days. Biology - get out in the verge of the playing field by the river bank, stick a shovel in, kill anything that moved with formaldehyde and dissect it. Chemistry - let's put this small pile of potassium permanganate in a glass Petri dish pour some glycerol over it and leave it in the sunshine ... Now where was I (10 minute talk about ionic and covalent bonds ended with WHOOSH as the glycerol went up ... And THAT, boys (we of course had segregated sex secondary schools then) is why we need to watch out for Free Radicals.....

The girls in the other half of the school segregated from us by a ten foot high chain link fence and a brook didn't miss out, their chemistry mistress was just as barking mad as our chemistry master.

Before the pox I had to drive Sarah to Melissa's parents evening and of course I tagged along.

Their syllabus utterly lacks this sort of excitement. I feel sorry for her. She will never (in that school) experience the joy of wondering how big a bang the mess she's boiling up will make ...

There are still a few of them left.

This chap was my son's chemistry teacher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYZT3opLedc

[Barry]

Poppy Day suicide bomber was at a mosque 'all day, every day' during Ramadan and in weeks leading up to botched bomb plot despite converting to Christianity in 2017 and used fake identity to claim asylum.
Daily Mail

The authorities dare not put him into the hands of Muslims as he would be persecuted or even killed. But but but...

[johnofgwent]

Ah, Pears Cyclopedia! A source of much innocent fun to teenage boys before we discovered girls. And atom bombs! There was a section on that as well and we suggested that as a project to our physics teacher, but he looked into it, sighed and said sorry lads, he liked the idea but separating the isotopes would be a problem. Not the technical part. Incredibly, he could source some yellow cake, but said the school would never be able to bear the electricity bill.

I tell you, we had real science teachers in those days.

And now? I am doing a bit of work in the bathroom and need some acetone to clean the mastic off my hands. But there isn't any in Poundland because they are frightened terrorists will use it to make bombs.....

Sad stuff.

I have a most enthusiastic form master to thank for my engagement with chemistry.

As you say, we had real science teachers in those days. Biology - get out in the verge of the playing field by the river bank, stick a shovel in, kill anything that moved with formaldehyde and dissect it. Chemistry - let's put this small pile of potassium permanganate in a glass Petri dish pour some glycerol over it and leave it in the sunshine ... Now where was I (10 minute talk about ionic and covalent bonds ended with WHOOSH as the glycerol went up ... And THAT, boys (we of course had segregated sex secondary schools then) is why we need to watch out for Free Radicals.....

The girls in the other half of the school segregated from us by a ten foot high chain link fence and a brook didn't miss out, their chemistry mistress was just as barking mad as our chemistry master.

Before the pox I had to drive Sarah to Melissa's parents evening and of course I tagged along.

Their syllabus utterly lacks this sort of excitement. I feel sorry for her. She will never (in that school) experience the joy of wondering how big a bang the mess she's boiling up will make ...

[papasmurf]

And now? I am doing a bit of work in the bathroom and need some acetone to clean the mastic off my hands. But there isn't any in Poundland because they are frightened terrorists will use it to make bombs.....

Sad stuff.

Acetone available locally £325 for a 200 litre barrel.

[Borchester]

I could make Nitroglycerine in my kitchen sink if I had the inclination, it is fairly easy if not very dangerous.

Ah, Pears Cyclopedia! A source of much innocent fun to teenage boys before we discovered girls. And atom bombs! There was a section on that as well and we suggested that as a project to our physics teacher, but he looked into it, sighed and said sorry lads, he liked the idea but separating the isotopes would be a problem. Not the technical part. Incredibly, he could source some yellow cake, but said the school would never be able to bear the electricity bill.

I tell you, we had real science teachers in those days.

And now? I am doing a bit of work in the bathroom and need some acetone to clean the mastic off my hands. But there isn't any in Poundland because they are frightened terrorists will use it to make bombs.....

Sad stuff.

[johnofgwent]

If you do, could you send me or JoG the login details for the webhost before you get blown up. We're probably the only two who could rescue the forum!

Having taken a look in my chemistry text books, I would not worry too much.

It's been 40 years since I last handled fuming nitric acid and it wasn't a pleasant experience.

I lost a lab coat and a decent jumper over the next two months they grew large holes where the fabric was inadvertently exposed to residual fumes where I failed to hose the hazmat suit off.

I learned a pretty valuable lesson which was put to good use when making polyacrylamide gels in my r search years. Fuming nitric acid is a corrosive nuisance. Monomer Acrylamide is a pretty handy neurotoxin .....

[papasmurf]

How these hairy bikers do not end up a greasy scum around the edge of a twenty foot wide crater in what was the kitchen beats me

Why are you associating two TV cooks with the manufacture of explosives?

[johnofgwent]

Sorry perhaps you misunderstand what I meant. I am suggesting that the mental health news is to placate the public. I would imagine that the 'authorities' are worried that if they were to let it be thought that too many immigrants were a threat there would be reprisals.

Ah now that's nearer the reality. 

I'm not convinced the public would riot; when a black criminal gets shot by the police, Tottenham burns. When a white one is shot, the Facebook Gestapo ban half a dozen people for 30 days for setting up a tasteless web page....

But the plot are shit scared there will be a riot.

[johnofgwent]

I could make Nitroglycerine in my kitchen sink if I had the inclination, it is fairly easy if not very dangerous.

One of the things that amazes me is how the hell meth cooks don't get vapourised. I've no idea if the cookery process used by hairy bikers in mythology follows the sort of processes I had to use to work with high energy phosphate bond chemicals (one would assume so from the literature of how to do it properly) but you end up with pushing chemicals from extreme acidic solutions to extreme alkaline ones and performing severe aqueous / organic extractions in separating funnels 

The entertaining part is mucking around with these high energy phosphate bond nucleosides is a high risk operation given the reactions can be highly exothermic and run away. We used to go though cubic yards of ice to stop that.

How these hairy bikers do not end up a greasy scum around the edge of a twenty foot wide crater in what was the kitchen beats me 

[Barry]

I could make Nitroglycerine in my kitchen sink if I had the inclination, it is fairly easy if not very dangerous.

If you do, could you send me or JoG the login details for the webhost before you get blown up. We're probably the only two who could rescue the forum! 

[Nick]

TATP, (Tricetone Trirperoxide?  Where is the evidence for that please? (TATP is used to ignite a main explosive charge.)
I have seen some speculation but not evidence.
Acetone (C₃H₆O) and hydrogen peroxide (H₂O₂). As C3H6O and H2O2 are the precursors of TATP, but getting Hydrogen Peroxide in a concentrated enough form to make TATP is difficult for the "home brewer."

I could make Nitroglycerine in my kitchen sink if I had the inclination, it is fairly easy if not very dangerous.

[Barry]

TATP, (Tricetone Trirperoxide?  Where is the evidence for that please? 

I don't have any, I was just musing. In fact, the current theory is that it was a mixture from fireworks.

[T00ts]

But the EU laws take time to be undone. Heard an interview last night by some minister saying that very thing. I would suggest they get a move on and get rid.

I agree we were told that everything EU was taken into UK law and would take time to unravel. Wasn't there a massive argument about it and Henry V111 (?) when they were trying to do it?