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Borchester

Quote from: papasmurf on September 14, 2022, 11:13:34 AM
No they are not, they are capped at far lower than Britain:-


https://news.sky.com/story/france-has-capped-energy-price-rises-at-4-could-uk-do-the-same-12675068

Tuesday 30 August 2022 19:26, UK

France has capped energy price rises at 4% - could UK do the same?

Sky News business presenter Ian King explores whether the UK could cap electricity price rises at 4% like France.






Tuesday 30 August 2022 19:26, UK

I imagine we will have to wait until the subsidies start to kick in before we get any idea how much better or worse off we are going to be.

So far I expect to be better off. With £400 off the energy bills, two pensioners pulling in an extra £200 a head on the coal allowance, the likelihood of an outbreak of peace in the Ukraine and Herself knitting pullovers fit to beat the band, I doubt that we will freeze.

That said I think I prefer the French idea. When I was in the south the locals would hunker down in their farmhouses and spend winter eating and drinking and not go out side the door until spring.
Algerie Francais !

patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on September 14, 2022, 11:13:34 AM
No they are not, they are capped at far lower than Britain:-


https://news.sky.com/story/france-has-capped-energy-price-rises-at-4-could-uk-do-the-same-12675068

Tuesday 30 August 2022 19:26, UK

France has capped energy price rises at 4% - could UK do the same?

Sky News business presenter Ian King explores whether the UK could cap electricity price rises at 4% like France.






Tuesday 30 August 2022 19:26, UK
A response could be that there's confusion between cost of electricity and its price. Costs on the open market are up. But suppliers set the price to consumers, and as France's gas and electricity generators and suppliers are mostly state-owned, the government can set the price lower than the cost...
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papasmurf

Quote from: Nick on August 29, 2022, 06:24:55 AM
 Electricity prices inside the EU now up ten fold.



No they are not, they are capped at far lower than Britain:-


https://news.sky.com/story/france-has-capped-energy-price-rises-at-4-could-uk-do-the-same-12675068

Tuesday 30 August 2022 19:26, UK

France has capped energy price rises at 4% - could UK do the same?

Sky News business presenter Ian King explores whether the UK could cap electricity price rises at 4% like France.






Tuesday 30 August 2022 19:26, UK
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Borchester

Quote from: cromwell on September 03, 2022, 02:14:03 PM
Funnily enough I don't eat junk food either and am waiting for an appointment as I suspect I have developed type 2 diabetes.

I eat quite a bit of fruit but I read only yesterday that you should avoid a lot of fruits because of the sugar content,they said stick to things like grapefruit ???

Type 2 diabetes is no big thing and can be controlled by drugs, diet or just sleeping it off. The thing is that everything contains sugar and whatever we eat is converted into it so that it can be moved round our bodies.

Algerie Francais !

cromwell

Quote from: srb7677 on September 03, 2022, 09:50:57 PM
I have had it for years.

Symptoms to look out for can be frequent bouts of intense tiredness, peeing frequently especially at night, always thirsty, blurred vision that might come and go and frequent severe cramps, especially in your feet.

Some of those symptoms can have other causes or can be age related, but if you are getting several of them, get it checked out.
Cheers Steve three out of five of those
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

srb7677

Quote from: cromwell on September 03, 2022, 02:14:03 PMI suspect I have developed type 2 diabetes.
I have had it for years.

Symptoms to look out for can be frequent bouts of intense tiredness, peeing frequently especially at night, always thirsty, blurred vision that might come and go and frequent severe cramps, especially in your feet.

Some of those symptoms can have other causes or can be age related, but if you are getting several of them, get it checked out.
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cromwell

Quote from: T00ts on September 03, 2022, 02:24:16 PM
Berries apparently are the answer, don't have grapefruit if you are on blood pressure tabs. So strawberries are fine, blueberries, raspberries etc but not too many and only once a day at most. Avoid citrus, grapes, apples, pears, plums etc except as an occasional treat. Best thing is to lose weight, fast 16 hours a day but otherwise just enjoy life!  Dancing
Had smoked salmon egg and toast for breakfast

nothing till tonight

having moussaka later with a bit of salad

don't eat a lot of fried anything,walk the dog though my knees ain't what they were,work in the garden.

based on five a day which they push avoid it Dancing

Quote from: Barry on September 03, 2022, 02:27:08 PM
Whilst on the subject of EU fuel pricing, may I suggest everyone weighs themselves in kilos, divides that number by the square of their height in meters.

Is a dose of sarcasm good for type 2 :D
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Barry

Whilst on the subject of EU fuel pricing, may I suggest everyone weighs themselves in kilos, divides that number by the square of their height in meters.
If it is over 25, eat less calories. No need to thank me.
If you can't figure it out for yourself, download "myfitnesspal" on your phone and it will do it for you.
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T00ts

Quote from: cromwell on September 03, 2022, 02:14:03 PM
Funnily enough I don't eat junk food either and am waiting for an appointment as I suspect I have developed type 2 diabetes.

I eat quite a bit of fruit but I read only yesterday that you should avoid a lot of fruits because of the sugar content,they said stick to things like grapefruit ???
Berries apparently are the answer, don't have grapefruit if you are on blood pressure tabs. So strawberries are fine, blueberries, raspberries etc but not too many and only once a day at most. Avoid citrus, grapes, apples, pears, plums etc except as an occasional treat. Best thing is to lose weight, fast 16 hours a day but otherwise just enjoy life!  Dancing

cromwell

Quote from: Borchester on September 03, 2022, 02:04:49 PM
Interestingly enough, that is not the case.

I went to see the quack recently for a check up and he said that my sugar level was off the scale and that it was all due to my eating junk food that was full of sugar and I said bollocks, I don't eat junk food. In fact, I said, practically everything I eat is homegrown and organic and how about a bit of medication rather than the standard cliches.

So he mattered a few cliches, gave me some extra pills and I have only just gotten up because I have been in a semi diabetic coma for the last few days as I slept the sugar level off.

Not a bad lad, but like a lot of medics he is not so clever when it comes to the joined up thinking.

I grow a lot of fruit.

When you go to the supermarket the fruit has been picked before it is ripe because otherwise it won't have much of a shelf life. Which means that it does not have much sugar in it.

I, on the other hand, just shake the trees so that whatever is ripe falls off and I get to eat fruit that is full of flavour and sugar.

As said, a good lad my quack, but not overly bright.
Funnily enough I don't eat junk food either and am waiting for an appointment as I suspect I have developed type 2 diabetes.

I eat quite a bit of fruit but I read only yesterday that you should avoid a lot of fruits because of the sugar content,they said stick to things like grapefruit ???
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Borchester

Quote from: Nick on September 03, 2022, 11:07:31 AM
Firstly, type 2 Diabetes is curable with very simple lifestyle changes, the first one being stop eating so much crap and start eating healthily, so this doesn't need a long drawn out medical saga.
And like I said, this notion you are left to die if you can't pay is simply not true. Another thing is that most in America have a fairly hefty 401K to draw on in old age.

Yes there are those that suffer from the system but they don't suffer like some in the U.K. from medical tourism.

Interestingly enough, that is not the case.

I went to see the quack recently for a check up and he said that my sugar level was off the scale and that it was all due to my eating junk food that was full of sugar and I said bollocks, I don't eat junk food. In fact, I said, practically everything I eat is homegrown and organic and how about a bit of medication rather than the standard cliches.

So he mattered a few cliches, gave me some extra pills and I have only just gotten up because I have been in a semi diabetic coma for the last few days as I slept the sugar level off.

Not a bad lad, but like a lot of medics he is not so clever when it comes to the joined up thinking.

I grow a lot of fruit.

When you go to the supermarket the fruit has been picked before it is ripe because otherwise it won't have much of a shelf life. Which means that it does not have much sugar in it.

I, on the other hand, just shake the trees so that whatever is ripe falls off and I get to eat fruit that is full of flavour and sugar.

As said, a good lad my quack, but not overly bright.
Algerie Francais !

Nick

Quote from: srb7677 on September 03, 2022, 07:45:43 AM
Under our health care system, the more you earn the more you tend to pay as taxation is inherently progressive. Under an insurance based system the more likely you are to need expensive healthcare the more you pay, regardless of how rich or poor you are. So diabetics and those with other long term conditions, Alzheimers sufferers and the elderly in general, will be expected to pay through the nose even if they are very poor. Some would die because they couldn't afford that.

Our system is an inherently fairer system at it's core. You pay according to ability to pay, and draw on it according to need. This is an inherently socialist principle, which fact is itself the very reason why many right wingers hate the current NHS model. And why they constantly seek to marketize it, monetize it, and underfund it whilst "reforming" it to destruction.
Firstly, type 2 Diabetes is curable with very simple lifestyle changes, the first one being stop eating so much crap and start eating healthily, so this doesn't need a long drawn out medical saga. 
And like I said, this notion you are left to die if you can't pay is simply not true. Another thing is that most in America have a fairly hefty 401K to draw on in old age. 

Yes there are those that suffer from the system but they don't suffer like some in the U.K. from medical tourism. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

srb7677

Under our health care system, the more you earn the more you tend to pay as taxation is inherently progressive. Under an insurance based system the more likely you are to need expensive healthcare the more you pay, regardless of how rich or poor you are. So diabetics and those with other long term conditions, Alzheimers sufferers and the elderly in general, will be expected to pay through the nose even if they are very poor. Some would die because they couldn't afford that.

Our system is an inherently fairer system at it's core. You pay according to ability to pay, and draw on it according to need. This is an inherently socialist principle, which fact is itself the very reason why many right wingers hate the current NHS model. And why they constantly seek to marketize it, monetize it, and underfund it whilst "reforming" it to destruction.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

cromwell

Quote from: Nick on September 03, 2022, 04:06:23 AM
I'm guessing you can't find any proof of that? It doesn't work like that, it's not pay as you go. You get invoices from each dept. for their particular service and then these are handled by the insurer. I'm not sure how the insurer could slow the treatment? They may hold payment in the hope the patient dies but your inference is that they had the treatment withdrawn due to none payment?
https://www.aha.org/news/blog/2022-05-02-five-ways-commercial-insurer-policies-drive-costs-and-hurt-patients
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?