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[Nick]

Low GDP growth, disastrous staff shortages in some areas, border delays for goods and people, vastly increased red tape at the border, huge border delays declining trade with Europe, NI situation politically disastrous.

All of this was predicted by sensible economists.

And how do you put the above in Brexit? Brexit has been overshadowed by Covid and not a one single day to stand on its own. I have seen staff shortages across the world since the start of this year, and the U.K. has one of the highest GDP growths this year. 

[Sean]

Brexit is clearly proving to be the economic and political disaster it was predicted it would be.

Amen to that.

[srb7677]

I don't see it - what are you basing that opinion on?

Low GDP growth, disastrous staff shortages in some areas, border delays for goods and people, vastly increased red tape at the border, huge border delays declining trade with Europe, NI situation politically disastrous.

All of this was predicted by sensible economists.

[T00ts]

Brexit is clearly proving to be the economic and political disaster it was predicted it would be.

I don't see it - what are you basing that opinion on?

[srb7677]

Brexit is clearly proving to be the economic and political disaster it was predicted it would be.

[Barry]

Cut the crap, indeed.

And explain away why the US dollar and euro is doing better than the GBP, or how the UK is going to survive if it has to import so much of it food and full.

The UK cannot rejoin the EU. But it needs to draw on all its diplomatic skills to get an association agreement that gets it anywhere near the benefits it had as a member of the EU.

And the one killer question — what has improved for the ordinary working family by the UK leaving the EU...?

I think this explains why you remainers are not entirely accurate in you pessimism.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/07/08/ignore-brexit-pessimists-germany-real-sick-man-europe/

UK is fine thanks. Stop talking us down, we're a force to be reckoned with. Ask Hallowed Brexit, he knows. 

[Nick]

Cut the crap, indeed.

And explain away why the US dollar and euro [highlight]is[/highlight] doing better than the GBP, or how the UK is going to survive if it has to import so much of it food and full.

The UK cannot rejoin the EU. But it needs to draw on all its diplomatic skills to get an association agreement that gets it anywhere near the benefits it had as a member of the EU.

And the one killer question — what has improved for the ordinary working family by the UK leaving the EU...?

Well, firstly we'll excuse your gramma...

As for GBP, it's in its usual sinusoidal pattern against USD and almost at a 5 year high against the Euro.
We don't need to import anything through the EU, as I've asked many times on the forum, what excluding brand names can the EU sell us that no country outside the eu can?

The killer question 🙋‍♂️ WOW!! Well the killer answer is: I've got a blue passport, the U.K. has the right to control our own borders and most of all it pissed the Remoaners of no end 😂. 

[patman post]

Cut the crap, indeed.

And explain away why the US dollar and euro is doing better than the GBP, or how the UK is going to survive if it has to import so much of it food and full. 

The UK cannot rejoin the EU. But it needs to draw on all its diplomatic skills to get an association agreement that gets it anywhere near the benefits it had as a member of the EU.

And the one killer question — what has improved for the ordinary working family by the UK leaving the EU...?

[Nick]

But like the majority of his tenure of No.10, Brexit's mostly turned out to be lies and mirage — the country was promised cheaper food, cheaper energy, and greater border control.

No doubt like Johnson, his supporters will blame others for all that's not been delivered or gone wrong, and assume the credit that's due to others for what's gone right...

You carry on playing your game Pat, but you and I know that there has not been a single NORMAL day since Brexit. 
Almost 2 years of Covid followed by Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 

Using the global price index by country, the U.K. is at number 33, 15 European countries including Germany above the U.K.  

Cut the crap and agree that nothing can be compared for at least 5 years now.

[HallowedBrexit]

And we kow towed to the seceded Irish free state

By free you mean the EU thralls surely?

[johnofgwent]

But like the majority of his tenure of No.10, Brexit's mostly turned out to be lies and mirage — the country was promised cheaper food, cheaper energy, and greater border control.

No doubt like Johnson, his supporters will blame others for all that's not been delivered or gone wrong, and assume the credit that's due to others for what's gone right...

And we kow towed to the seceded Irish free state

[T00ts]

But like the majority of his tenure of No.10, Brexit's mostly turned out to be lies and mirage — the country was promised cheaper food, cheaper energy, and greater border control.

No doubt like Johnson, his supporters will blame others for all that's not been delivered or gone wrong, and assume the credit that's due to others for what's gone right...

We can't blame Boris for everything even if it suits the narrative. Those promises were possible until his term was hit by just about every crisis going. It isn't right or fair to blame for everything we are currently facing.

[patman post]

One thing that cannot be stated enough Boris Johnson was he an oaf yes he was but for all his faults he gave us Brexit.


For that we should forever be grateful. It's no secret that Whitehall needs a good kicking and as for the Scots well we can't see the back of them soon enough.

But like the majority of his tenure of No.10, Brexit's mostly turned out to be lies and mirage — the country was promised cheaper food, cheaper energy, and greater border control. 

No doubt like Johnson, his supporters will blame others for all that's not been delivered or gone wrong, and assume the credit that's due to others for what's gone right...

[HallowedBrexit]

One thing that cannot be stated enough Boris Johnson was he an oaf yes he was but for all his faults he gave us Brexit.   


For that we should forever be grateful. It's no secret that Whitehall needs a good kicking and as for the Scots well we can't see the back of them soon enough.

[Nick]

Nor were voters asked how the UK should become involved in Ukraine — was that mind-blowing arrogance from a PM needing a war to get a Maggie moment to support his premiership?

Or do we elect representatives, rather than delegates, to do what they consider best for us...?

Sorry but there is a massive difference between a country assisting a country that has been violated, a decision made by an elected government and some 2 bit has-been ex PM telling us what he thinks should happen.