Boris resigns but...

[T00ts]

The danger for your lot is that what the members most want might not be what the country as a whole most wants.

If the final two going to the membership are a relative moderate and a right wing headbanger, the membership might be tempted to vote for the latter when the former would be more likely to win an election.

I agree. I don't see a successful potential PM in the motley crew that have put themselves forward. This has been the problem all along. Party leadership is easy in comparison to running the country. Perhaps Boris was a PM rather than a party leader. What Conservative MPs are looking for might not exist.

[srb7677]

There is no way of him being removed as PM only as leader of the Conservative party. They have just discussed this at length on Sky. It's true that it should be done asap, but the mistake with that would be choosing the wrong successor by doing it in a hurry.

The danger for your lot is that what the members most want might not be what the country as a whole most wants.

If the final two going to the membership are a relative moderate and a right wing headbanger, the membership might be tempted to vote for the latter when the former would be more likely to win an election.

[srb7677]

His resignation speech was typical Boris in many ways but his plan to continue in post until a new leader is arranged has opened yet another can or worms. Many don't want him in post at all and want an interim leader in the meantime.

Will they kick the man when he is already down? Time will tell but I just hope there will be a little more considered thought and a little less herd instinct and stampede panic.

If the Tories pick the right leader, someone not too tainted by Johnson who can credibly offer a fresh start and a clean break and who is credible on the integrity issue, they will likely enjoy a bounce, Starmer's fragile poll lead will collapse and it will be Labour doing all the panicking.

[srb7677]

To the former: I guess Starmer and a fair number of his voters WOULD have got FPNs for partying...


To the latter: are we sure this wasn't staged, and or mismanagement of resources ? Given the fact I wasn't the only one chucked out of A&E lest I caught the disease I still had the immunoglobulins for swilling round in my blood, one must ask if he truly deserved that ICU bed ...

I always had the deepest suspicions in regard to how real his covid really was.

[johnofgwent]

What would happen if he died in office?

What did happen when he almost died of Covid?

To the former: I guess Starmer and a fair number of his voters WOULD have got FPNs for partying...


To the latter: are we sure this wasn't staged, and or mismanagement of resources ? Given the fact I wasn't the only one chucked out of A&E lest I caught the disease I still had the immunoglobulins for swilling round in my blood, one must ask if he truly deserved that ICU bed ...

[HDQQ]

He should have laid the motion for it last night. The moment is passed, and of Starmer gets an FPN then so is he.

In reality even if he had laid a motion for a vote of confidence it would not have passed. No tory would have voted for it or even abstained

The only unknown is the Duppers from Northern Ireland, they're a bit of a wild card but how they vote wouldn't affect the outcome.

[johnofgwent]

Starmer is threatening a HofC vote of no confidence which could dissolve parliament.

He should have laid the motion for it last night. The moment is passed, and of Starmer gets an FPN then so is he.

In reality even if he had laid a motion for a vote of confidence it would not have passed. No tory would have voted for it or even abstained

[Nick]

All lies Boris isn't going anywhere Nicks truth meter said so.

Think you'll find that was 3-4 months ago and a lot has changed since. I did also say that local elections would have a bearing on it. But nice to see you're keeping up 😉. 

[Good old]

Why?

There's centuries of precedent, custom and practice for any supreme court to refer to should it become necessary.

Besides, I doubt any constitution devised today would be as succinct and useful as the constitution of the USA and its amendments...

Yes just as there has been plenty of custom and precedent for Johnson to play fast and loose with, no doubt hoping to set further precedents.
I do not say we must have a written constitution. I merely say for the sake of avoiding the confusion Johnson sets everyone by avoiding custom and precedent ,maybe a written constitution would have saved confusion. Not that we should consider going through the possibly impossible task of creating one.

[Streetwalker]

What would happen if he died in office?

What did happen when he almost died of Covid?

Choosing an acting or interim leader/PM seems the sensible way of wresting power away from the UK's Poundland Trump before he goes on to do any more damage.

That way, an orderly selection by MPs to place before party members can be carried out...

Feck me cheer up Posty , I wasnt going to bother this year what with all the strikes /staff shortages and whatever but after reading that booked up a holiday , we might all be dead by Christmas .

[patman post]

My word patman, me thinks we could do with a written constitution , or god knows what happens .

Why?

There's centuries of precedent, custom and practice for any supreme court to refer to should it become necessary.

Besides, I doubt any constitution devised today would be as succinct and useful as the constitution of the USA and its amendments...

[Barry]

All lies Boris isn't going anywhere Nicks truth meter said so.

Welcome back, Sheepy, it's been a long 3 months. 🐑

[T00ts]

What would happen if he died in office?

What did happen when he almost died of Covid?

Choosing an acting or interim leader/PM seems the sensible way of wresting power away from the UK's Poundland Trump before he goes on to do any more damage.

That way, an orderly selection by MPs to place before party members can be carried out...

Absolutely but he isn't dead or unable - like I said there is no legal method if he is deemed physically/mentally able apparently. It will be up to the new cabinet/Westminster to keep him under control

[Good old]

What would happen if he died in office?

What did happen when he almost died of Covid?

Choosing an acting or interim leader/PM seems the sensible way of wresting power away from the UK's Poundland Trump before he goes on to do any more damage.

That way, an orderly selection by MPs to place before party members can be carried out...

My word patman, me thinks we could do with a written constitution , or god knows what happens .

[patman post]

There is no way of him being removed as PM only as leader of the Conservative party. They have just discussed this at length on Sky. It's true that it should be done asap, but the mistake with that would be choosing the wrong successor by doing it in a hurry.

What would happen if he died in office?

What did happen when he almost died of Covid?

Choosing an acting or interim leader/PM seems the sensible way of wresting power away from the UK's Poundland Trump before he goes on to do any more damage.

That way, an orderly selection by MPs to place before party members can be carried out...