Are the police woke?

Started by Sheepy, August 31, 2022, 10:32:17 AM

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Sheepy

Quote from: johnofgwent on September 04, 2022, 01:30:45 AM
No, but their leaders are institutionally racist.
Well, you know what they say, the minute you pin on that Rossette you become a donkey.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

johnofgwent

Quote from: Sheepy on September 02, 2022, 09:56:39 AM
So, they are woke then?
No, but their leaders are institutionally racist.
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

Streetwalker

Quote from: Sheepy on September 02, 2022, 09:56:39 AM
So, they are woke then?
Thats the admin not the police themselves who just do as they are told 

Sheepy

Quote from: Streetwalker on September 02, 2022, 05:11:40 AM
Thats the influence of  political leadership for you , if you had said the violent thugs were kicking shit out of a black kid they would have been sent round in minutes .

So, they are woke then?
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Streetwalker

Quote from: johnofgwent on September 02, 2022, 02:04:27 AM
Well, there are a number who wish to be somewhat overt in their support for political causes.

But the problem in this area is at Management level particularly with the politically appointed Police and Crime Commissioner. Crime went down when we had a former Detective Inspector in the PCC job but has shot up since he was ousted by a Labour party funded nominee.

I have personally made a 999 call reporting a bunch of violent thugs kicking shit out of themselves and destroying my property in the process which received the unwelcome response that no one was available to come and assist me.

I therefore had to go out and sort the bastards myself armed with a pickaxe handle and a motorcycle chain.

Fine when you are in your late 30s as I was then but not so fine when you are in your mid sixties. I'm not sure how I'd deal with them today. Actually there's a large plastic container of highly flammable alcohol based deicer in the kitchen cupboard, and one of those patio weeder flamethrowers in the storage shed right by the back door so throw the deicer over them then light them up with the weeder would seem the best approach

The problem back in my late 30s was apparently insistence on police filling in shitloads of paperwork which removed the officers from availability for active duty. Well that's what I got given as a written excuse when I complained I had to go out there in person and beat the bastards over the head and in the nuts with a pickaxe handle ....

You may have heard reports from the BBC that a gang (as in, a group of people believed to be the same individuals) are going round some northern population area kicking eleven and twelve year old kids in the head and ripping their hair out and the terrified victims were not able to get any sort of assistance for DAYS, the parents being told on dialling 999 that no one was available.

I'm going to say right now god help anyone, anywhere who tries that stunt on Melissa, her dance classes mean she's fitter than most royal marines on enrolment day, she is already pushing five foot six has muscles in her spit and a kick like a bloody donkey and Toots' will know exactly why.
Thats the influence of  political leadership for you , if you had said the violent thugs were kicking shit out of a black kid they would have been sent round in minutes .

johnofgwent

Quote from: Streetwalker on August 31, 2022, 08:24:15 PM
No I dont think they are . They have a few tossers in the ranks who think its OK to join in with the people who they are supposed to be policing but in general they just want to keep order and nick felons 

Well, there are a number who wish to be somewhat overt in their support for political causes.

But the problem in this area is at Management level particularly with the politically appointed Police and Crime Commissioner. Crime went down when we had a former Detective Inspector in the PCC job but has shot up since he was ousted by a Labour party funded nominee.

I have personally made a 999 call reporting a bunch of violent thugs kicking shit out of themselves and destroying my property in the process which received the unwelcome response that no one was available to come and assist me.

I therefore had to go out and sort the bastards myself armed with a pickaxe handle and a motorcycle chain.

Fine when you are in your late 30s as I was then but not so fine when you are in your mid sixties. I'm not sure how I'd deal with them today. Actually there's a large plastic container of highly flammable alcohol based deicer in the kitchen cupboard, and one of those patio weeder flamethrowers in the storage shed right by the back door so throw the deicer over them then light them up with the weeder would seem the best approach

The problem back in my late 30s was apparently insistence on police filling in shitloads of paperwork which removed the officers from availability for active duty. Well that's what I got given as a written excuse when I complained I had to go out there in person and beat the bastards over the head and in the nuts with a pickaxe handle ....

You may have heard reports from the BBC that a gang (as in, a group of people believed to be the same individuals) are going round some northern population area kicking eleven and twelve year old kids in the head and ripping their hair out and the terrified victims were not able to get any sort of assistance for DAYS, the parents being told on dialling 999 that no one was available.

I'm going to say right now god help anyone, anywhere who tries that stunt on Melissa, her dance classes mean she's fitter than most royal marines on enrolment day, she is already pushing five foot six has muscles in her spit and a kick like a bloody donkey and Toots' will know exactly why.
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

Sheepy

Quote from: Nick on September 01, 2022, 02:16:25 PM
Barristers and lawyers hiding behind the law? You'll have to explain that one.
Well, that is simple, as Barristers and lawyers make their way into Parliament and climb the ranks they tend to make and follow laws which give them an advantage.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Nick

Quote from: Sheepy on September 01, 2022, 10:30:33 AM
That is easily sorted then, patrol the beaches and catch them as they arrive in their thousands, arrest charity chiefs who use it as a cash cow and tax avoidance scheme, arrest Barristers and lawyers who hide behind the law to coin it in and change the laws so they can't do it any longer, probably sounds a bit harsh but as the NHS can no longer cope or administer health care for half the world, and has just become a bottomless pit probably for the best.
Barristers and lawyers hiding behind the law? You'll have to explain that one. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sheepy

Quote from: Streetwalker on August 31, 2022, 08:24:15 PM
No I dont think they are . They have a few tossers in the ranks who think its OK to join in with the people who they are supposed to be policing but in general they just want to keep order and nick felons 

That is easily sorted then, patrol the beaches and catch them as they arrive in their thousands, arrest charity chiefs who use it as a cash cow and tax avoidance scheme, arrest Barristers and lawyers who hide behind the law to coin it in and change the laws so they can't do it any longer, probably sounds a bit harsh but as the NHS can no longer cope or administer health care for half the world, and has just become a bottomless pit probably for the best.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Streetwalker

No I dont think they are . They have a few tossers in the ranks who think its OK to join in with the people who they are supposed to be policing but in general they just want to keep order and nick felons  

johnofgwent

The issue clearly arises through reports on Sky News suggesting the force is more concerned with political gestures than catching criminals. A report alleging this was apparently released before Boris chose to appear with some of the newest recruits.

The problem in the UK is the likes of Flabbott and Lammy who require the police to believe George Floyd was a reformed character and not a nine times convicted felon who served time for each of those theft and drugs offences.

Deal with that problem and you'll go a loNg way to dealing with the other.
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

Sheepy

I was reading Boris was asked if it were so, I guess no doubt he blustered through in the usual political fashion without saying anything, but as they refused to admit the reason, they are snowed under by crimes waves by illegal immigration I guess they must be.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!