Boris on the move?

Started by T00ts, August 16, 2022, 08:59:52 AM

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cromwell

Quote from: Borchester on August 20, 2022, 08:53:47 PM
Bit unfair Ollie. Wellington was famous for the the care he took to see that his troops were well feed. Now Starmer follows the Napoleonic principle. He has no idea how he is going to pay for everything and just hopes to survive by plundering the countryside
Bloody autocorrect  :D
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Borchester

Quote from: cromwell on August 20, 2022, 12:34:37 PM
Wellington you ignore the soaring cost of energy,food and cost of living in general and that administrations of all colours have only governed and planned for the short term so we are where we are then yeah you're right everything's fine.

Bit unfair Ollie. Wellington was famous for the the care he took to see that his troops were well feed. Now Starmer follows the Napoleonic principle. He has no idea how he is going to pay for everything and just hopes to survive by plundering the countryside
Algerie Francais !

Sheepy

Quote from: T00ts on August 20, 2022, 12:46:20 PM
No not ignoring it. At present everything is on hold. Is that right? No - but it seems no matter who is in power or what action they take there is no easy way out as things stand. No-one has yet persuaded me that they have an answer, not Truss, Sunak or Starmer and perhaps none of them are bright enough, but which one would seek out people with answers and then act on them?
They had plenty of answers but usual it didn't create enough chaos for them to mull over and pretend they will be fixing it. Time, we stop voting for our own demise and listening to hopeless politicians who are only interested in a debt driven economy. While they grab everything, they possibly can for themselves and their money backing masters.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Nick

Quote from: T00ts on August 20, 2022, 12:46:20 PM
No not ignoring it. At present everything is on hold. Is that right? No - but it seems no matter who is in power or what action they take there is no easy way out as things stand. No-one has yet persuaded me that they have an answer, not Truss, Sunak or Starmer and perhaps none of them are bright enough, but which one would seek out people with answers and then act on them?
Sunak certainly wouldn't ask for advice. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

T00ts

Quote from: cromwell on August 20, 2022, 12:34:37 PM
Wellington you ignore the soaring cost of energy,food and cost of living in general and that administrations of all colours have only governed and planned for the short term so we are where we are then yeah you're right everything's fine.
No not ignoring it. At present everything is on hold. Is that right? No - but it seems no matter who is in power or what action they take there is no easy way out as things stand. No-one has yet persuaded me that they have an answer, not Truss, Sunak or Starmer and perhaps none of them are bright enough, but which one would seek out people with answers and then act on them? 

cromwell

Quote from: Borchester on August 20, 2022, 10:16:54 AM
No.

The problem is that is that there is not is not a problem. Every minor upset is blown up into a major catastrophe.
Quote from: T00ts on August 20, 2022, 12:01:08 PM
Agreed.

Wellington you ignore the soaring cost of energy,food and cost of living in general and that administrations of all colours have only governed and planned for the short term so we are where we are then yeah you're right everything's fine.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

T00ts

Quote from: Borchester on August 20, 2022, 10:16:54 AM
No.

The problem is that is that there is not is not a problem. Every minor upset is blown up into a major catastrophe.
Agreed.

Borchester

Quote from: T00ts on August 20, 2022, 09:36:11 AM
So there's a question. Is that what is wrong with British politics? It's become too presidential. I gather Boris and family is spending the rest of his time at Chequers, perhaps to let the decorators into the Downing St. flat.

No.

The problem is that is that there is not is not a problem. Every minor upset is blown up into a major catastrophe.
Algerie Francais !

T00ts

Quote from: Borchester on August 20, 2022, 09:27:09 AM
Quite.

There seems to be an idea for a Supreme Leader as PM or president or whatever. In practice all we want is some sort of office manager. Useful bloke to have around to keep an eye on things, but the world is not going to come to an end if he takes a few days off or, like a number of competent bosses I have had, spends most of his time ratarsed.
So there's a question. Is that what is wrong with British politics? It's become too presidential. I gather Boris and family is spending the rest of his time at Chequers, perhaps to let the decorators into the Downing St. flat.

Borchester

Quote from: johnofgwent on August 20, 2022, 09:01:10 AM
I feel it necessary to point out Belgium managed for months without one and I never felt so wealthy as when Sunny Jim Callaghan was immobilised and inactive thanks to his "social compact" with David Steels liberals


Quite.

There seems to be an idea for a Supreme Leader as PM or president or whatever. In practice all we want is some sort of office manager. Useful bloke to have around to keep an eye on things, but the world is not going to come to an end if he takes a few days off or, like a number of competent bosses I have had, spends most of his time ratarsed.
Algerie Francais !

johnofgwent

Quote from: T00ts on August 18, 2022, 06:21:48 PM
We have to have a Government so who would you be happy with? The choices seem so dire to me at this moment.
I feel it necessary to point out Belgium managed for months without one and I never felt so wealthy as when Sunny Jim Callaghan was immobilised and inactive thanks to his "social compact" with David Steels liberals
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cromwell

I don't think people scoff at what you say Sheepy,in many ways you are right because the choice between the two is dumb and dumber.

Yes we do need reform ,they need to understand we are not fools to be led by the nose and only and very briefly consulted then forgotten till the next election.


Where I do baulk is at the alternatives,we must be sure we don't offload one lot and find ourselves  in a worse position,if that's at all possible.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Sheepy

Quote from: T00ts on August 18, 2022, 07:41:38 PM
I don't understand, what further choice would you want?

Yes, you do, we have spelt it out thousands of times, I remember you scoffing and saying how amusing it was we were passionate about it. Where are your voters then?
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

T00ts

Quote from: Sheepy on August 18, 2022, 07:14:31 PM
It isn't about the money, it never has been, for the Tories and Labour that is all they think everything is, it is still about having a real choice over your destiny which politicians think is only ever about them.
I don't understand, what further choice would you want? 

Sheepy

Quote from: T00ts on August 18, 2022, 07:11:20 PM
There are about 2 years before a GE so I will try some optimism in the hope that a) World news will improve and b) Whoever gets into No10 can show some drive and innovative thought. The political depression in the country has to lift.
It isn't about the money, it never has been, for the Tories and Labour that is all they think everything is, it is still about having a real choice over your destiny which politicians think is only ever about them. 
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!