Olives and copper pipe

Started by Borchester, September 09, 2022, 03:38:53 PM

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srb7677

Quote from: Nick on September 13, 2022, 04:11:50 PM
I love em.
You probably love brussels sprouts, the only food likely to be available in hell.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Nick

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


cromwell

Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Borchester

Quote from: patman post on September 12, 2022, 01:55:41 PM
Well, you could clear up a point — are these existing untouched joints, joints you've tampered with in some way, or completely new joints?

I ask because, although I am not a plumber, I have used prestex olive compression joints in both 15mm and 22mm pipe work connecting the main water supply, gas boilers, electric showers and water heaters, central heating radiators, etc, and the only problem I remember having was with an awkwardly sited Yorkshire soldered joint...

Brand new 15 mm compression fittings, the best that Screwfix can offer. Not even on special offer. And I go back to dunking copper pennies in Baker's Fluid and then sweating them onto lead pipe.

Actually, I suspect it is the copper pipe, which has been battered all ways to Sunday. The leaks are tiny, but if the pipes are oval rather than round, then there will always be a dribble.

So yesterday I took myself and my micrometer to B &  Q and bought a few more metres of pipe. I will give it another shot at the weekend. Right now I need a break and will concentrate on repairing the ceilings. A bit of plaster board, some scrim, a bag of plaster and a coat of paint and there you are. It looks good and no sodding leaks
Algerie Francais !

srb7677

We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Nick

Quote from: papasmurf on September 12, 2022, 05:28:06 PM
The machines were used for cutting coal. The high pressure water was pumped through the cutter "picks." The company I used to work for made the machines.
I've seen similar machines that could cut inch thick steel
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

papasmurf

Quote from: Nick on September 12, 2022, 05:03:41 PM
You must have been cutting steel then?
The machines were used for cutting coal. The high pressure water was pumped through the cutter "picks." The company I used to work for made the machines. 
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Nick

Quote from: papasmurf on September 12, 2022, 01:33:31 PM
There are a lot of cowboy tradesmen. But as to the subject of the thread.  In the past I used to work with equipment that pumped water at 10000 psi. Olives worked on that with no sealant.
You must have been cutting steel then?
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

patman post

Quote from: Borchester on September 11, 2022, 10:13:55 PM
I am terribly sorry Pat, maybe I didn't make myself.

THE JOINTS f**king WELL LEAK !

I hope that I am not being too obscure ?

Well, you could clear up a point — are these existing untouched joints, joints you've tampered with in some way, or completely new joints?

I ask because, although I am not a plumber, I have used prestex olive compression joints in both 15mm and 22mm pipe work connecting the main water supply, gas boilers, electric showers and water heaters, central heating radiators, etc, and the only problem I remember having was with an awkwardly sited Yorkshire soldered joint...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

papasmurf

Quote from: cromwell on September 09, 2022, 07:46:01 PM
Not something professionals should do,but then seen some shockers by so called trades.
There are a lot of cowboy tradesmen. But as to the subject of the thread.  In the past I used to work with equipment that pumped water at 10000 psi. Olives worked on that with no sealant. 
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

srb7677

Quote from: Nick on September 11, 2022, 11:54:45 PMpressure isn't so important, it's the flow that you want.
That's what I think regarding cash going into my account.

Don't really want any pressure just maximum flow.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Nick

Quote from: Borchester on September 10, 2022, 02:59:47 PM
Never really thought of that.

I am going to find some sort of meter to measure the actual water pressure.

I reckon that all would be well were the pipe work ok, but the last lot of stuff I got from B&Q was bent all ways to Sunday. Apparently they use plastic olives in Australia but I am blowed if I can find any in the UK, so I imagine that I will fall back on PTFE.

I am so bloody sick of this business. I have spent two weeks putting in a couple of metres of pipe and a stop cock, and the screams you can hear are
from me pissing razor blades.

I really really want to go to my allotment and dribble bollocks with the rest of the geriatrics, but I can because of this poxy plumbing.

I blame everyone else
Water pressure isn't so important, it's the flow that you want. You could have 20 bar pressure coming threw a 1mm hole and it would take hours to fill your bath. 
An engineer from United Utilities told me they've turned the pressure down across the board as this helps with the millions of leaks they have, cheaper than fixing the problems. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Nick

Quote from: cromwell on September 09, 2022, 07:46:01 PM
Not something professionals should do,but then seen some shockers by so called trades.
Straight onto copper they are great also, 2/3rds of my house is done in plastic now, and I'm fairly sure all new builds are done in plastic to. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Borchester

Quote from: patman post on September 10, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
Can't say I understand your problem.

I helped out on a couple of properties with plumbing jobs. Cleaning all surfaces with wire wool and tightening well, but not too much, worked on prestex type joints — though we only used them where Yorkshire solder fittings couldn't be used...

I am terribly sorry Pat, maybe I didn't make myself.

THE JOINTS FUCKING WELL LEAK !

I hope that I am not being too obscure ?

I bloody well loathe copper plumbing and I can't see the point when there is John Guest push fit plastic pipe available, but as said, no one is asking my opinion.

Such a day. Last week we bought in some birdseed and stored it in Madam's work shop. Today she went in and screamed. The placed was covered in rat crap and sod all else. The buggers had scoffed 25 kilos (55lbs) of bird food. I am amazed they didn't end up with heart attacks in view of how much they had eaten. Anyway, tomorrow I will lay down some poison. I don't like doing it, but considering the amount of earache I have had, I don't see why I should not share the misery.

Algerie Francais !