Iran morality police and Iran in the UN

Started by Barry, September 23, 2022, 03:33:33 PM

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Sampanviking

The event and the international reaction are two very different things and yes the Iranian authorities need to understand that fairly modest concessions would defuse this situation considerably.

At the same time though I think this captures the Western reaction perfectly.

johnofgwent

Back in 1982 I recall the wall of Moira's office block being graffiti'd with the words "saddam is a butcher" in red spray paint, which made a change from the usual anti English rant in green.

We presumed the ALF were up to no good, since they'd just planted firebombs, and put the research lab to bikini state red.

Two of the drop dead gorgeous women of foreign origin working in the end lab on biological respiratory toxins asked me why all the door locks and lights had come on and I told them we were presuming the slogan on the wall opposite was the work of animal rights terrorists.

She smiled the way a bond girl might and said "oh that! No, that's not the animal rights people, that's just someone unhappy about our president"

And explained about the Ba'ath party

And how large chunks of Iraqi society at the time were in league with the Iranians to overthrow saddam, and how some chunks of Iranian society were working with the Ba'ath party to overthrow Khomeni.

And this has been going on for quite a few decades now.

She'd probably be quite unhappy about some of the stuff I've done since 

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Sampanviking

It is a curious coincidence though that this all kicks of the moment Iran starts supplying its loitering drones to Russia and starts a formal application to join the SCO

It also appears that the lady that is leading the protest organisation is based in the New York and is very pally with Mike Pompeo.

B-4

Quote from: Barry on September 24, 2022, 10:09:13 AM
No takers on this then? No one supports this misogyny, surely?
It isn't about supporting it, it's just that it would technically be Islamophobic to challenge the theocratic apparatus.  According to the righteous Guardian Islamophobia is racism and racism is a hate crime.  I wouldn't want to upset the Saudi funded Social Justice warriors.

Sheepy

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 24, 2022, 02:00:19 PM
Civil as in an internal Iranian legal matter, not a military matter.
Didn't we get to this because of US regime change and only the right kind of Muslim were being offered a spot in the Utopia, which actually ended up with the rise of terrorism countless millions displaced and killed, with countries left in ruins and everywhere else holding the baby, I should be considering that if I was an Iranian. 
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Sampanviking

Quote from: Barry on September 24, 2022, 12:35:02 PM
Since when was homicide a civil matter?
His or her mates are taking the punishment from the public now and the police are dying on the streets. That is not a good look either.
They were much better off under the "evil" Shah.
Civil as in an internal Iranian legal matter, not a military matter.

Barry

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 24, 2022, 12:21:34 PM
Its a civil matter and an Iranian officer has clearly exceeded his authority and abused his position. He needs to be held culpable and dealt with accordingly.
Since when was homicide a civil matter?
His or her mates are taking the punishment from the public now and the police are dying on the streets. That is not a good look either.
They were much better off under the "evil" Shah.
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Sampanviking

Quote from: Barry on September 24, 2022, 11:27:42 AM
At least someone replied. Sorry if I posted in the wrong section. :P
I don't suppose anyone would be bleating on about the death of Zainab Essam Majed 15 years later.
Context:
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/iraq-investigating-death-teen-girl-random-shooting
However, it's no surprise that you support the view of pro-Iranians, as the Iranian government are no friends of ours.
Whataboutery aside,
Does anyone else remain neutral or support the killing of a woman for not wearing a hijab?
Its a civil matter and an Iranian officer has clearly exceeded his authority and abused his position. He needs to be held culpable and dealt with accordingly.

cromwell

Expect little else from a lot of religious loonies,can only hope that a more liberal regime replaces this lot.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Barry

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 24, 2022, 11:06:57 AM
Yes its tragic, but its a civil matter inside Iran, not a War or Terrorism. Its in the wrong section.

BTW on the same day, the yanks shot dead a 15 year old Iraqi girl in Baghdad, somehow the media doesn't seem quite so interested in that..
At least someone replied. Sorry if I posted in the wrong section. :P
I don't suppose anyone would be bleating on about the death of Zainab Essam Majed 15 years later.
Context:
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/iraq-investigating-death-teen-girl-random-shooting
However, it's no surprise that you support the view of pro-Iranians, as the Iranian government are no friends of ours.
Whataboutery aside,
Does anyone else remain neutral or support the killing of a woman for not wearing a hijab?
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Sampanviking

Yes its tragic, but its a civil matter inside Iran, not a War or Terrorism. Its in the wrong section.

BTW on the same day, the yanks shot dead a 15 year old Iraqi girl in Baghdad, somehow the media doesn't seem quite so interested in that..

Barry

No takers on this then? No one supports this misogyny, surely?

The Iranians in the street certainly do not support it.

Iranian general killed in street battle with protesters Iranian security forces arrest Majid Tavakoli, a journalist who played a key role in exposing death of Mahsa Amini in custody

Extract:

QuoteAn Iranian army general and a member of the morality police have been killed in street battles with protesters amid continuing unrest over the death in custody of a woman arrested for improperly wearing a hijab.

The killings came as security forces on Friday arrested Majid Tavakoli, a journalist and activist who played a key role in exposing the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini, who died following three days in the custody of Iran's morality police.

Reza Azarian, the commander of Iran's north western brigade, confirmed to a local news agency that his deputy second general Moslem Javid Mehr has been killed fighting protesters in the town of Ghoochan in the holy province of Khorasan.

It was also reported that Mohammad Rasoul Doost Mohammadi, a member of the Basij militia, has been killed in clashes with protestors.

Ms Amini's death has reignited anger over strict dress codes for women and the country's economy, which is reeling from Western sanctions.
Not heard any denouncement from the British government or opposition yet?

Those people who got rid of the Shah all those years ago ruined Iran, where women were free and safe on the streets. Now, those women are forced to die on the streets to try to regain democracy from their theocratic oppressors.

I hope that they win and put a sane woman in charge of the country.
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Barry

The morality is an illusion, of course. Mahsa Amini was not immoral, the police who battered her to death were.
Maybe they will arrest themselves.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-62984076

Meanwhile in the UN, the President Raisi held up pictures of the terrorist IRGC leader, Qassem Soleimani, accusing Donald Trump of murder.

Trump and Pompeo are being targeted by terror cells in the USA, by Iran.

Some people in America are negotiating with Iran over nuclear bombs. How anyone can think any country would be safe with these religious maniacs having a nuclear weapon escapes me. Iran are a dangerous rogue state. I hope the Iranian people overthrow the Islamic Republic leaders.

 
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