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Started by papasmurf, December 11, 2019, 01:14:04 PM

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cromwell

I've traced family back to 1700's, ordinary people and the odd skeleton around ww1 and late 1700's,dna might be interesting though cos I reckon somewhere along the line was a milkman from foreign parts  :o
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 post_id=14726 time=1580405037 user_id=59
I sometimes confuse Mongrel with Mongol.  Apparently Genghis Khan left his mark everywhere.   ;)

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You never  :lol: know

Scott777

Quote from: Streetwalker post_id=14711 time=1580396486 user_id=53
Im a right mongrel ,  Any DNA test would come back as yes to everywhere  .


I sometimes confuse Mongrel with Mongol.  Apparently Genghis Khan left his mark everywhere.   ;)
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Streetwalker

Im a right mongrel ,  Any DNA test would come back as yes to everywhere  .

Scott777

To my knowledge, I am descended from the De Veres, and therefore have Norman blood.  Aubrey de Vere, tenant-in-chief of William the Conqueror in 1086, is mentioned in the Domesday Book.
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T00ts

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=14695 time=1580383698 user_id=89
Paternal.   (Both is more expensive.)

I am surprised at how little Viking DNA I have, 2%. It has shot down in flames a theory I had where some hereditary medical conditions I have come from unless they are in that 2%. Also having looked further at the report I had no idea relatives of mine went to the Hudson Bay and Newfoundland areas back in the 1700's. There is no paperwork trail for that at all.

My wife is now considering having ancestral DNA testing done because her fathers ancestral origins beyond his parents are a mystery.


That's really interesting. I have my paternal line well started but my maternal one stops at my grandparents. As immigrants spellings are all over the pace and records abroad seem non existent for anything like a similar name.

papasmurf

Quote from: T00ts post_id=14687 time=1580379982 user_id=54
I'm not sure how this done but does it trace your paternal or maternal lines or both?


Paternal.   (Both is more expensive.)

I am surprised at how little Viking DNA I have, 2%. It has shot down in flames a theory I had where some hereditary medical conditions I have come from unless they are in that 2%. Also having looked further at the report I had no idea relatives of mine went to the Hudson Bay and Newfoundland areas back in the 1700's. There is no paperwork trail for that at all.

My wife is now considering having ancestral DNA testing done because her fathers ancestral origins beyond his parents are a mystery.
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T00ts

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=14683 time=1580376781 user_id=89
Just had a closer look the 20% German DNA originates from Bavaria.


I'm not sure how this done but does it trace your paternal or maternal lines or both?

johnofgwent

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=9155 time=1576073265 user_id=89
My family used to be charcoal burners and rustic furniture makers. That involved connections with the Hampden estate which goes back before the Norman invasion.


My father's family WERE the Norman Invasion !! Or rather, military consultants to part of it. When mum needed a full time carer  it fell to my middle brother who also took over the ancestry searching started decades ago by a quite eccentric great uncle of ours...
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papasmurf

Just had a closer look the 20% German DNA originates from Bavaria.
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papasmurf

Update. My ancestral DNA report has been done. It will take some time for me to go through all of it.

I already knew my ancestors had been in the same place for around 900 years by written records.

What I was not expecting was it appears they have been in the same area for a lot longer than that.

78% of my ancestral DNA is from a small area around where I was born, 20% is from a small area of Germany. (I have not had time to look closely at that.) 2% is from Sweden.
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Churchill

Quote from: Nalaar post_id=9969 time=1576335783 user_id=99
Both 23&Me and Ancestry operate in the U.K. if they are willing to share the data to American law enforcement requests I do not see why they would deny the same requests in the U.K. as long as the law is permitting. Regardless of whether or not the law is currently permitting is irrelevant, given it is subject to change at the states discretion.


Then they are bound by our laws here if their Database is here, if they have had no request from our Police then it is irrelevant, our Police struggle to get information from Internet  Providers based in America to track down on line paedophiles operating in the UK as it is.
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papasmurf

Quote from: Nalaar post_id=9960 time=1576335311 user_id=99
Nothing I have posted in this thread is untrue.





This information is being self-reported by the DNA companies themselves.


You implied that someone DNA could be easily accessed by law enforcement. You then posted a link and a quote that proved it can't.

There would have to be a VERY good reason for a Judge to grant police or anyone other law enforcement access to someone's DNA records.

(If it was someone who was current or ex American military service the answer would be no anyway.)
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Nalaar

Quote from: Churchill post_id=9962 time=1576335372 user_id=69
It is a company based in California not in the UK different laws and practices in America


Both 23&Me and Ancestry operate in the U.K. if they are willing to share the data to American law enforcement requests I do not see why they would deny the same requests in the U.K. as long as the law is permitting. Regardless of whether or not the law is currently permitting is irrelevant, given it is subject to change at the states discretion.
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Churchill

It is a company based in California not in the UK different laws and practices in America
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