200 companies named for not paying staff minimum wage

[Unlucky4Sum]

Nice try, but I'm waiting for the evidence that part time working is used to calculate average working hours, but you knew that.

My link also said that the 35 working week is a myth and that people work a lot more.

What did Barry say... Oh yeah, you delete posts that you don't like and prove you wrong, you can't do that here, people can follow the thread here and see what you're up to like in the cricket thread.

So yet again you give out information you were supplied by PM.  You do like acting shitty don't you and Barry does like lying.  He posted potentially illegal content that would place people in mortal danger.  You allow such here if you want.  

Anyone that has two brain cells would work out that if the standard full time working week is 35 hours and the average working week is 31.7 then some people cannot be working full time.  Intelligent people know such as part time workers.  A tragedy that you don't seem to be able to work that out.

You've been given authoritative data showing that French wages were higher in 2021 than UK in 2023 and that French wages have gone up since 2021.  The only thing you've positioned to support your supposition that French wages are a lot lower was a ludicrous attempt to position numbers in work as wages.

Now can you or can you not provide any link to back your supposition that French wages are much lower than UK wages or can we look forward to you doing the honest thing and giving yourself a 48 hour ban?
 

[Nick]

Your own fucking links told you the defined French full time working week is 35 hours

Nice try, but I'm waiting for the evidence that part time working is used to calculate average working hours, but you knew that.

My link also said that the 35 working week is a myth and that people work a lot more.

What did Barry say... Oh yeah, you delete posts that you don't like and prove you wrong, you can't do that here, people can follow the thread here and see what you're up to like in the cricket thread.

I thought you would be triggered SteveK, but of course, you can't delete my comments here.
The thing is, you didn't allow any comments that showed any negativity towards the experimental jabs on your forum

[Unlucky4Sum]

And of course you're going to show data backing that up aren't you? A data set that shows the average is full and part time combined?

As for Smurf agreeing with you, he was the one that started this off saying the French working week is 35hrs.

Your own fucking links told you the defined French full time working week is 35 hours 

Do keep digging

[Nick]

You really don't understand simple work economics do you?

Some people in France work overtime in addition to the standard 35 hour week and a lot of people work part time so the average hours of the employed is 31.7 on the same basis as it's 32 hours in the UK.

And your boast about France wages being a lot lower than those in the UK continues to be utter horseshit.  It was only a minor point but your dogged determination to post bullshit after bullshit to refuse to admit you fucked up so defines you.

And of course you're going to show data backing that up aren't you? A data set that shows the average is full and part time combined?

As for Smurf agreeing with you, he was the one that started this off saying the French working week is 35hrs.

[Unlucky4Sum]

Another website explaining to you that even the 35hr week is a myth. As for part time, if you're going to include them in data, why not include unemployed? It's just obfuscation on your part to try and blur the reality, using one incorrect data source.

You really don't understand simple work economics do you? 
 
Some people in France work overtime in addition to the standard 35 hour week and a lot of people work part time so the average hours of the employed is 31.7 on the same basis as it's 32 hours in the UK.
 
And your boast about France wages being a lot lower than those in the UK continues to be utter horseshit.  It was only a minor point but your dogged determination to post bullshit after bullshit to refuse to admit you fucked up so defines you.

[Nick]

prove it

I've given you a respected site's detail figures https://tradingeconomics.com/france/average-weekly-hours. 

So far you've pretended that numbers of people working was salaries and that the legal definition of full time working week is the week that all workers work incl part time workers.  Maybe you could get that fictional graphene phone of yours to imagine some web sites for you.

Another website explaining to you that even the 35hr week is a myth. As for part time, if you're going to include them in data, why not include unemployed? It's just obfuscation on your part to try and blur the reality, using one incorrect data source. 

[Unlucky4Sum]

And like I told you, part time workers don't get measured in the average, only full time workers.
If you bothered to read, you'd see that it clearly states the article is debunking the myth that the French work short hours.

prove it

I've given you a respected site's detail figures https://tradingeconomics.com/france/average-weekly-hours. 
 
So far you've pretended that numbers of people working was salaries and that the legal definition of full time working week is the week that all workers work incl part time workers.  Maybe you could get that fictional graphene phone of yours to imagine some web sites for you.

[Nick]

Still been a case of huge hypocrisy by you. 

What you think is of no interest to me, why are you on this forum and not your own again?

[Nick]

Did you even read them?  Seems not.

Both those articles are talking about the defined standard working week for full time employees which is not the average hours worked.  We don't have such in the UK but many people have a defined working week of 37 or 37.5 hours yet because of part time workers the average hours worked in the UK is 32 per week.

Maybe I need to explain part time working for you but then of course I couldn't understand it for you.

And like I told you, part time workers don't get measured in the average, only full time workers.
If you bothered to read, you'd see that it clearly states the article is debunking the myth that the French work short hours.

[Unlucky4Sum]

Smurf was asked at least six times to show some evidence but as usual he does everything to not do cause he has none. I've had years of this bull, and when he comes back he'll have another chance to show some evidence, which he won't do, so the cycle keeps repeating. Believe it or not, if it wasn't for me he would have been banned permanently years ago.

Still been a case of huge hypocrisy by you.  

[Unlucky4Sum]

How many do you want? Even Smurf posted one 2 days ago showing it was 35 hrs.


https://boundlesshq.com/guides/france/hours-of-work/#:~:text=The%20French%20working%20hours%20are,are%20compulsory%20paid%20as%20overtime.

https://snippetsofparis.com/french-work-week/

Did you even read them?  Seems not.
 
Both those articles are talking about the defined standard working week for full time employees which is not the average hours worked.  We don't have such in the UK but many people have a defined working wekk of 37 or 37.5 hours yet because of part time workers the average hours worked in the UK is 32 per week.
 
Maybe I need to explain part time working for you but then of course I couldn't understand it for you. 
 

[Nick]

The fact that you can't post a link shows far more.  Why don't you give yourself a 48 hour ban like you did Papasmurf for failing to post a link

Smurf was asked at least six times to show some evidence but as usual he does everything to not do cause he has none. I've had years of this bull, and when he comes back he'll have another chance to show some evidence, which he won't do, so the cycle keeps repeating. Believe it or not, if it wasn't for me he would have been banned permanently years ago. 

[Nick]

The fact that you can't post a link shows far more.  Why don't you give yourself a 48 hour ban like you did Papasmurf for failing to post a link

How many do you want? Even Smurf posted one 2 days ago showing it was 35 hrs. 


https://boundlesshq.com/guides/france/hours-of-work/#:~:text=The%20French%20working%20hours%20are,are%20compulsory%20paid%20as%20overtime.

https://snippetsofparis.com/french-work-week/

[Unlucky4Sum]

You can rattle your graph out all you want, that doesn't make it correct. The fact that virtually every page on Google says 35 should tell you something.

The fact that you can't post a link shows far more.  Why don't you give yourself a 48 hour ban like you did Papasmurf for failing to post a link

[Nick]

Look the referenced facts are they work on average 31.7 hours (because like the UK they have a lot of part time workers).  Your sad denial of this is at best bizarre. 

France Average Weekly Hours

You can rattle your graph out all you want, that doesn't make it correct. The fact that virtually every page on Google says 35 should tell you something.