They found Thomas's sword...

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Borchester

Quote from: Thomas post_id=16075 time=1581410277 user_id=58
interesting enough borkie , im reading a lot of the old research by the medieval historian and expert geoffrey barrow at the minute , got a few more of his books.



He was mentioning the whole highland / lowland myth is a modern invention , prior to the 14th century , no one had ever mentioned the highlands lowlands as gaidhlig was the common language of the whole country , and throughout the 14th 15th 16 th centuries , not one of the manuscripts or anything we have in contemporary scottish evidence from the major scottish landowning families mentions the highlands as being distinctive from the rest of scotland .



As for charles stuarts army in the 18th century , just to point out borkie there were as many people from southern scotland in the army as there were the north , as well as irish english and french.



On the british side , scottish regiments made up government troops as well.



I think the 45 was more trying to establish stuart back as the british king , where he had made promises to various factions that he would probably have never kept to politically divide scotland england ireland back into their sovereign status while he retained the monarchy over all three kingdoms.



The stuarts in my opinion were one of the biggest arsehole dynasties in scotlands history , from the moment their family took the scottish crown , scotland started down the  plughole under their rule.


I have to admit Tommy,  that nearly all my information on 18th century Scotland comes from John Prebble. His books have taken a no doubt justified battering over the years, but they are a lovely read and that will do for me.



Charles Stuart certainly seemed to lack that most important characteristic of all successful politicians in that he lacked luck. His landing in Scotland was meant to be a diversion, but he was dropped in it by the French and left to fight on his own. He converted to Protestantism in 1750, which probably pissed off many his as many Catholic supporters while failing to draw many Protestants to his side. And more to the point, no one appeared to have heard of it, which does not say much for his PR department. And then George III came to the throne. And Farmer George might have been as mad as a March Hare, but the general feeling was that he was an English lunatic and thus better than an ineffectual, half Polish despot.
Algerie Francais !

Thomas

Quote from: Borchester post_id=16065 time=1581377403 user_id=62
:hattip  :D  :hattip



Tommy will laugh but I am not so sure about anyone else.



A few years ago I uploaded Peter Watkins' 1964 classic Culloden. I have done what I can but this bloody YouTube how is your father thinks that I am a dick and so I am just providing a link



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAojJ0D8Nng&t=230s">//%20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAojJ0D8Nng&t=230s%20





 Watkins portrayed the highlanders as being tired, wet and hungry which was fair enough as many had not eaten for three days and they only reached the battlefield after an all night march.



But it did not please some posters who acted as though I had pissed in the sink. Which of course I do but they had no proof of it. Anyway, as far as they were concerned every highlander was a warrior poet and well, that was it.  :D


interesting enough borkie , im reading a lot of the old research by the medieval historian and expert geoffrey barrow at the minute , got a few more of his books.



He was mentioning the whole highland / lowland myth is a modern invention , prior to the 14th century , no one had ever mentioned the highlands lowlands as gaidhlig was the common language of the whole country , and throughout the 14th 15th 16 th centuries , not one of the manuscripts or anything we have in contemporary scottish evidence from the major scottish landowning families mentions the highlands as being distinctive from the rest of scotland .



As for charles stuarts army in the 18th century , just to point out borkie there were as many people from southern scotland in the army as there were the north , as well as irish english and french.



On the british side , scottish regiments made up government troops as well.



I think the 45 was more trying to establish stuart back as the british king , where he had made promises to various factions that he would probably have never kept to politically divide scotland england ireland back into their sovereign status while he retained the monarchy over all three kingdoms.



The stuarts in my opinion were one of the biggest arsehole dynasties in scotlands history , from the moment their family took the scottish crown , scotland started down the  plughole under their rule.
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

Borchester

:hattip  :D  :hattip



Tommy will laugh but I am not so sure about anyone else.



A few years ago I uploaded Peter Watkins' 1964 classic Culloden. I have done what I can but this bloody YouTube how is your father thinks that I am a dick and so I am just providing a link



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAojJ0D8Nng&t=230s">//%20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAojJ0D8Nng&t=230s%20





 Watkins portrayed the highlanders as being tired, wet and hungry which was fair enough as many had not eaten for three days and they only reached the battlefield after an all night march.



But it did not please some posters who acted as though I had pissed in the sink. Which of course I do but they had no proof of it. Anyway, as far as they were concerned every highlander was a warrior poet and well, that was it.  :D
Algerie Francais !

DeppityDawg

...no, no, no....not that sword...this sword....



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7987085/Medieval-sword-sells-30-000-discovered-garage.html">//https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7987085/Medieval-sword-sells-30-000-discovered-garage.html











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