Can Mr Johnson shuffle out 5 women and get away with it?

Started by Baron von Lotsov, February 12, 2020, 02:42:26 PM

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Baron von Lotsov

Quote from: "Major Sinic" post_id=16391 time=1581620917 user_id=84
I can not help observing about gender dilemmas within the Labour Party. A leadership short list of five candidates, four female gender and one male. Who to choose? Well the answer should be the one best suited and most qualified to unite a divided and broken party and this is what those who have the vote as well as their integrity should choose! The final choice will actually be the one that Momentum and its Marxist membership chooses. and I can guarantee that gender is subservient to ideological dogma every time and that had a Jew been on the short list they would never have won!



When Lawrence Fox was asked this question by Fiona Bruce on Question Time, he replied after a few moments thought that he thought Kier Starmer would make the best leader. Shami Chakrabarti, you know the one who sold out her integrity for a peerage,immediately challenged him by criticising his choice by saying 'There are four women and one man, and you choose the man?' He replied that he was OK with any of the women, but he hadn't realised that the prime criteria was gender not ability!


Right, so we should see a woman leader and the claim the Labour Party stands up for all women of this country.



Mr McLibel must feel like the token man.
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Baron von Lotsov

Quote from: "Hyperduck Quack Quack" post_id=16339 time=1581595774 user_id=103
The surprise resignation of Sajid Javid is perhaps indication of impending resumption of the Tory party civil war, earlier than anyone might have expected, notwithstanding their big majority in Parliament.


Nah, he will be pissing in the wind if he tries to start a war. You can only effectively mount a war when the government has a small majority, just like we have seen with the EU. Wars are not what this country needs anyway. It should be a time of peace and prosperity. The war has been fought. Also to continue this philosophy of peace an prosperity we should not pick fights with other countries, but aim to work and trade in peace with them all. Once we learn to do that we will save a fortune.
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Baron von Lotsov

Quote from: T00ts post_id=16335 time=1581594360 user_id=54
An interesting opinion. Until we know the look of the cabinet it is hard to comment, but not all public schools are alike anymore than all students at any given school are alike. On the whole the gib of someone is set before the 13th year of entry to public school, so I doubt that the school changes so much of someone's personality, and as far as uniqueness, well who is to say that I or you would not be better placed in a Ministry if we had the inclination to follow that career. The mere fact of working in Westminster is already selective.


I think it make a a big difference, or at least if it is a good school. The general view I get from people who have had private education is that the school works for them. They know you can just walk away and take your money with you. In a state school though the customer is always wrong. The best thing i believe we could do in this country is to abolish state education entirely.
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Major Sinic

I can not help observing about gender dilemmas within the Labour Party. A leadership short list of five candidates, four female gender and one male. Who to choose? Well the answer should be the one best suited and most qualified to unite a divided and broken party and this is what those who have the vote as well as their integrity should choose! The final choice will actually be the one that Momentum and its Marxist membership chooses. and I can guarantee that gender is subservient to ideological dogma every time and that had a Jew been on the short list they would never have won!



When Lawrence Fox was asked this question by Fiona Bruce on Question Time, he replied after a few moments thought that he thought Kier Starmer would make the best leader. Shami Chakrabarti, you know the one who sold out her integrity for a peerage,immediately challenged him by criticising his choice by saying 'There are four women and one man, and you choose the man?' He replied that he was OK with any of the women, but he hadn't realised that the prime criteria was gender not ability!

Major Sinic

Quote from: "Hyperduck Quack Quack" post_id=16329 time=1581588295 user_id=103
Not if such people were uniquely qualified to do the best for our country and all of its people.  But they're not - I should know, I went to a public school myself. However I'm not an Old Etonian, so perhaps my opinion has no validity!


Nor is the new Chancellor. He went to Winchester, a notch or two above Eton academically!



You mustn't confuse leading public schools which are in a position to select the very best academic potential through demanding entrance examinations with those second rate establishments trading out of clapped out country houses, because Dad has a few bob and wants to avoid the supposed shame of having it known at the golf club that his sprog is state educated! The entrance exam to these is a only relatively thin cheque book and the education itself not a lot richer.



Which category do you fall in Quackers?

Major Sinic

Quote from: "Bright Young Thing" post_id=16259 time=1581520597 user_id=49
Any reshuffle should be carried out regardless of gender - those who are doing their job should stay, those who aren't should go. Same with moving up to more prominent posts, those who deserve to be promoted should be. Whether they are male or female is irrelevant.


The LIKE button has gone so  :hattip I agree.

Baron von Lotsov

Quote from: "Hyperduck Quack Quack" post_id=16326 time=1581587718 user_id=103
My prediction is that there will be more people from 'top' public schools including some Old Etonians in the new cabinet.



Now the Tories have a big majority there's an impression they can walk on water.  That might be true in terms of their parliamentary majority but not so true in the case of Boris Johnson as leader and PM.  If he gets too far out of step with his own party, there are plenty of Tory MPs with career ambitions waiting for their moment.


I said this to the Cons years ago. I said if you organise a clear objective to get us out of the EU and don't sit on the fence about it then you will get yourself a large majority. An 80 majority seems about right and what I had expected in that scenario. You just add in most of the UKIP vote to the Tories and you have a strong team, but there were years of disagreement. Now they follow the sensible UKIP policies and forget about the mad ones. It's like a marriage of two parties and their offspring have the better genes of both. Even Labour are quite happy because they are agreeing on things, e.g. Labour wants to see a return of manufacturing to the northern regions where their mates are, and HS2 is the kind of thing Labour would do in that they go for large infrastructure, as per Keynesian economics. Not that I'm a fan of Keynes, but just that we need it for economic reasons anyway.
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Barry

The cabinet he appointed last year was a "get B***** done" cabinet and the political bit now done, and no going back, he now needs a cabinet which will move forward with his policies for social improvement and infrastructure development. It might well be HS2 which has caused Javid to resign, although we might not know the reason. BoJo is certainly intending to spend some money on projects, whilst reducing by 10% the costs of the civil service.

He's bound to have opposition, he's a radical.
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Hyperduck Quack Quack

The surprise resignation of Sajid Javid is perhaps indication of impending resumption of the Tory party civil war, earlier than anyone might have expected, notwithstanding their big majority in Parliament.

T00ts

Quote from: "Hyperduck Quack Quack" post_id=16329 time=1581588295 user_id=103
Not if such people were uniquely qualified to do the best for our country and all of its people.  But they're not - I should know, I went to a public school myself. However I'm not an Old Etonian, so perhaps my opinion has no validity!


An interesting opinion. Until we know the look of the cabinet it is hard to comment, but not all public schools are alike anymore than all students at any given school are alike. On the whole the gib of someone is set before the 13th year of entry to public school, so I doubt that the school changes so much of someone's personality, and as far as uniqueness, well who is to say that I or you would not be better placed in a Ministry if we had the inclination to follow that career. The mere fact of working in Westminster is already selective.

Hyperduck Quack Quack

Quote from: T00ts post_id=16327 time=1581588023 user_id=54Is that a problem?


Not if such people were uniquely qualified to do the best for our country and all of its people.  But they're not - I should know, I went to a public school myself. However I'm not an Old Etonian, so perhaps my opinion has no validity!

T00ts

Quote from: "Hyperduck Quack Quack" post_id=16326 time=1581587718 user_id=103
My prediction is that there will be more people from 'top' public schools including some Old Etonians in the new cabinet.


Is that a problem?

Hyperduck Quack Quack

My prediction is that there will be more people from 'top' public schools including some Old Etonians in the new cabinet.



Now the Tories have a big majority there's an impression they can walk on water.  That might be true in terms of their parliamentary majority but not so true in the case of Boris Johnson as leader and PM.  If he gets too far out of step with his own party, there are plenty of Tory MPs with career ambitions waiting for their moment.

Baron von Lotsov

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=16270 time=1581524592 user_id=89
I thought from the thread header it was about Boris's personal life.


Good point. He's probably had more experience with women than most.
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papasmurf

I thought from the thread header it was about Boris's personal life.
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