Does anyone have a brain to spare?

[Baron von Lotsov]

Agree, traffic planning cock-ups, like HR initiatives, often appear to be run by box-ticking robots.

An example is Hackney trying to spend £0.5 million by the Mayor of London to tackle traffic air pollution. Suggestions so far concentrate on one main thoroughfare that often jams up during rush hour, and include planting trees, giant plant pots to make pinch points, and a cargo-bike hire scheme.

Meanwhile, roads that could take some of the traffic of this particular road are being closed to through traffic. I doubt there's a smart thinker among LBH traffic planners...

I agree. This appears to be a wider problem and all too often I see totally incompetent people in jobs these days. All government jobs are selected via recruitment agencies. You can tell what sort of people work in recruitment agencies by reading a few job ads. If you had idiots in recruitment agencies then you are totally stuffed as a society, because they affect practically every industry, bar any who do not use them, but what I hear is it is becoming increasingly difficult not to use an agency if you want to avoid heavy litigation or some other nasty letters telling you that you have not followed the rules. The rules are probably the size of a library.



See, once you have idiots running the show, then all hell gets let loose. They make a change because they can argue convincingly on the BBC that it will save all and sundry from the dreaded boogeyman, but do not care what else their changes affect, some of which are subtle problems. I don't know if you have ever tried to writ e complex computer program, but the worst problem of all is just this. You make one correction and it knocks out a load of other things, some of which are very distantly connected, that is unless you are very clever and have the perfect structure, which is the most difficult part of the game.

[T00ts]

I'd make it very clear that I didn't bring gender in to the opening post, and indeed I had no idea who was at the top in Transport Scotland. I'd rather this wasn't turned into a gender debate please.



My only point was that whoever thought up a) a bridge that can have problems with falling ice in Scotland and b)non essential roadworks on the only alternative route being planned for one of the coldest months of the year should be hanging their head in shame. Male or female, whatever, they're still a clown  :kikass:

 :oops: Sorry BYT!

[Thomas]

I was recently travelling from Menton to Pisa in convivial company as our train approached the charming Ligurian town of San Remo. One of my companions enquired with solicitude whether one intended to assist at the San Remo Jazz Festival. I trust that my upbringing and innate formality prevented the horror and outrage which I felt from being expressed facially.

 :roll:  ::



Thanks fur sharing the stories of your travels baron , but we are talking about the bridge they soap dodging chavvies fae edinburgh yase. ::



Nae problems wae the erskine or kingston bridges , we jist happen to build a lot better than that mob over in edinburgh.

[patman post]

I'd make it very clear that I didn't bring gender in to the opening post, and indeed I had no idea who was at the top in Transport Scotland. I'd rather this wasn't turned into a gender debate please.

Agree, traffic planning cock-ups, like HR initiatives, often appear to be run by box-ticking robots.

An example is Hackney trying to spend £0.5 million by the Mayor of London to tackle traffic air pollution. Suggestions so far concentrate on one main thoroughfare that often jams up during rush hour, and include planting trees, giant plant pots to make pinch points, and a cargo-bike hire scheme.

Meanwhile, roads that could take some of the traffic of this particular road are being closed to through traffic. I doubt there's a smart thinker among LBH traffic planners...

[Bright Young Thing]

I'd make it very clear that I didn't bring gender in to the opening post, and indeed I had no idea who was at the top in Transport Scotland. I'd rather this wasn't turned into a gender debate please.



My only point was that whoever thought up a) a bridge that can have problems with falling ice in Scotland and b)non essential roadworks on the only alternative route being planned for one of the coldest months of the year should be hanging their head in shame. Male or female, whatever, they're still a clown  :kikass:

[Baron von Lotsov]

What can I say? I always accuse the male of the species for these obvious errors of judgement. Chances are that a woman would have thought of this but the 'guys' would have laughed at the inevitable risk assessment of the female mind. I was talking to my daughter only today and she disclosed a couple of situations where her husband just doesn't see risk. Not with the weather, some plumbing fault, young children on bikes with a steep downward slope to cross roads, nothing. They are from Mars - or even further away. Bless 'em.

 :kikass:

Transport Scotland is who is responsible, and within that are the following:



Alison Irvine

Director of Transport Strategy and Analysis



Laura Murdoch

Director of Bus, Accessibility and Active Travel



Michelle Rennie

Director of Major Projects



It appears they had this version of the species running it, but the magic woman touch failed to materialise.



Like fairy goes ting and it is all brilliant.

[T00ts]

Now, at the risk of being misunderstood, I did wonder if this was a bit of payback to a certain verbose member of the forum. I also had to look up the word misandry, which couldn't apply to T00ts.   ::



The  bridge is, at least, still standing, but I hope they don't use the same "Frozen" design on the 30 mile Scotland-Ireland bridge. Personally, I think I'll be gone before that exists.  :fpigs:

Misandry? Most certainly not - although I do recognise their limitations.   ::  :roll:   My question with this amazing bridge idea is will it come inside the proposed dams to protect Europe from rising tides or outside. It might make a big difference to the depth of the piles. Or am I being an unnecessary risk assessment female again.

[Barry]

What can I say? I always accuse the male of the species for these obvious errors of judgement. Chances are that a woman would have thought of this but the 'guys' would have laughed at the inevitable risk assessment of the female mind. I was talking to my daughter only today and she disclosed a couple of situations where her husband just doesn't see risk. Not with the weather, some plumbing fault, young children on bikes with a steep downward slope to cross roads, nothing. They are from Mars - or even further away. Bless 'em.

 :kikass:

Now, at the risk of being misunderstood, I did wonder if this was a bit of payback to a certain verbose member of the forum. I also had to look up the word misandry, which couldn't apply to T00ts.   ::



The  bridge is, at least, still standing, but I hope they don't use the same "Frozen" design on the 30 mile Scotland-Ireland bridge. Personally, I think I'll be gone before that exists.  :fpigs:

[T00ts]

I have one BYT - still in the box and never been used.

 ::  ::  ::  :roll: Pristine!!

[Sampanviking]

I have one BYT - still in the box and never been used.

[T00ts]

You couldn't make this up. Up here in Edinburgh we recently spent an alleged £2 billion on a new crossing over the Forth (and made the existing bridge buses and taxis only). It was revolutionary, it was amazing and it would most definitely never have to be closed due to weather (the old one was frequently closed to high sided vehicles in strong winds). Until yesterday when ice falling off the supports significantly damaged cars....



Closed since lunchtime yesterday and no sign of it reopening. But hang on, I hear you say, couldn't they just temporarily re-route the traffic over the old bridge? Well no, because they're replacing one of the carriageways. Planned work.



So, we have one bridge that the Local Authority knew had a potential fault with falling ice, and they chose to resurface the other one in one of the most likely months to have bad weather and potentially be very cold.



You seriously couldn't make it up!!

What can I say? I always accuse the male of the species for these obvious errors of judgement. Chances are that a woman would have thought of this but the 'guys' would have laughed at the inevitable risk assessment of the female mind. I was talking to my daughter only today and she disclosed a couple of situations where her husband just doesn't see risk. Not with the weather, some plumbing fault, young children on bikes with a steep downward slope to cross roads, nothing. They are from Mars - or even further away. Bless 'em.

 :kikass:

[Bright Young Thing]

You couldn't make this up. Up here in Edinburgh we recently spent an alleged £2 billion on a new crossing over the Forth (and made the existing bridge buses and taxis only). It was revolutionary, it was amazing and it would most definitely never have to be closed due to weather (the old one was frequently closed to high sided vehicles in strong winds). Until yesterday when ice falling off the supports significantly damaged cars....



Closed since lunchtime yesterday and no sign of it reopening. But hang on, I hear you say, couldn't they just temporarily re-route the traffic over the old bridge? Well no, because they're replacing one of the carriageways. Planned work.



So, we have one bridge that the Local Authority knew had a potential fault with falling ice, and they chose to resurface the other one in one of the most likely months to have bad weather and potentially be very cold.



You seriously couldn't make it up!!