Voters annoyed at government's broken promises, admits minister

[Streetwalker]

There was very little paperwork when we were members of the EU, now the amount of paperwork and the cost of it is ridiculous.

(Which has been detailed in reports I have linked to.)

Another link with embedded links:-  Four years on, Brexit continues to undermine segments of UK seafood industry | SeafoodSource

Another link that sets out government policy and water companies miss management . The fishing people were let down by Theresa May ,UK parliament and the shit agreement they signed with the EU . 

Its maybe worth reminding that the thread is about governments broken promises . The biggest one of all was failing to carry out the will of the people who voted Brexit 

[papasmurf]

The way you go on Papa is as if there was no paperwork when we were members of the EU .That could have been minimised of course with a better deal from the outset but there you go .

There was very little paperwork when we were members of the EU, now the amount of paperwork and the cost of it is ridiculous.

(Which has been detailed in reports I have linked to.)

Another link with embedded links:-  Four years on, Brexit continues to undermine segments of UK seafood industry | SeafoodSource

[Streetwalker]

What is NOT mentioned there is the mountain of costly paperwork needed post Brexit to export fish to the EU.  Plus the bivalve mollusc problem has not been addressed.  Many local fishermen have stopped/gone bankrupt since Brexit. (100 less in the last year fishing boats in the last year alone.) Locally Brexit has been a disaster. 

The way you go on Papa is as if there was no paperwork when we were members of the EU .That could have been minimised of course with a better deal from the outset but there you go .

[papasmurf]

Yet in another post you complain about what your local chippy charges despite the fact businesses across the country are affected by by high energy charges.

It seems your concerns about how businesses survive in your locale are highly selective.

I am not the only one complaining about what the local Chippy charges £13 for fish and chips. ( In the town 10 miles away one takeaway charges £7 for fish and chips.) What puzzles me is the local fishmonger opened by a local fisherman and his lady sold me 4 fillets of haddock for £5.90 in total recently. Making it far cheaper to cook fish for myself.

I and others also cannot understand is a local beach cafe charging £5 for a basic cup of coffee.

[papasmurf]

Recent landings at Newlyn your local port reported catches valued at £11,049 (10,416) , £44,176 (£29,068 ) and £8,706 (£5234 ) . The figure in brackets denotes the cost of fuel . Not a lot left to pay for other stuff like bait and food and wages for the guys for their days at sea which makes fishing under the current climate of high fuel prices unsustainable .
But no lets blame Brexit and read what left leaning remainiacs have to say whose article you link that doesnt even mention the main problem ,that being  fuel cost

What is NOT mentioned there is the mountain of costly paperwork needed post Brexit to export fish to the EU.  Plus the bivalve mollusc problem has not been addressed.  Many local fishermen have stopped/gone bankrupt since Brexit. (100 less in the last year fishing boats in the last year alone.) Locally Brexit has been a disaster.  

[cromwell]

Nick I am not interested in your total ignorance of the situation where I live which has been VERY badly damaged by Brexit. (As referenced in the BBC link.)

Read this and the embedded links:-  How fishing was gutted by Brexit - West Country Voices

Yet in another post you complain about what your local chippy charges despite the fact businesses across the country are affected by by high energy charges.

It seems your concerns about how businesses survive in your locale are highly selective.

[Streetwalker]

Nick I am not interested in your total ignorance of the situation where I live which has been VERY badly damaged by Brexit. (As referenced in the BBC link.)

Read this and the embedded links:-  How fishing was gutted by Brexit - West Country Voices

The fishing industry was doing OK after Brexit , not great but OK . Over fishing has depleted some stocks especially for inshore fishing again not Brexit .Theresa May then made a bad deal for British fishing again not Brexit but government policy . The big spanner in the works though is the cost of fuel ,again not Brexit. French and Spanish governments subsidise fuel for their fishing fleets the UK does not .
Thats not Brexit its government policy , the price of oil and the fishing fleet having to go further to return a catch .

Recent landings at Newlyn your local port reported catches valued at £11,049 (10,416) , £44,176 (£29,068 ) and £8,706 (£5234 ) . The figure in brackets denotes the cost of fuel . Not a lot left to pay for other stuff like bait and food and wages for the guys for their days at sea which makes fishing under the current climate of high fuel prices unsustainable .
But no lets blame Brexit and read what left leaning remainiacs have to say whose article you link that doesnt even mention the main problem ,that being  fuel cost 

Dont blame me I voted UKIP ,I voted for Brexit , a real Brexit .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32220052

[papasmurf]

Yet again you post a statistic and some arbitrary link showing absolutely
nothing that confirms your prognosis. Have you got a graph showing the U.K. fish economy pre and post Brexit, including Covid?

Nick I am not interested in your total ignorance of the situation where I live which has been VERY badly damaged by Brexit. (As referenced in the BBC link.)

Read this and the embedded links:-  How fishing was gutted by Brexit - West Country Voices

[Nick]

Nick try telling that to the people who have gone bankrupt and/or are now out of work. (100 inshore fishing boats gone in Cornwall in the last year. )
Fishing is going down hill fast.

Why Devon and Cornwall fishermen feel disillusioned after Brexit - BBC News

Yet again you post a statistic and some arbitrary link showing absolutely
nothing that confirms your prognosis. Have you got a graph showing the U.K. fish economy pre and post Brexit, including Covid?

[papasmurf]

Farming was always going to suffer a short term dip as they had to start actually farming for a change, instead of being paid by the EU to keep their cartel prices high.
And as I've told you 10 times, fishermen have suffered since Quotas were brought in because they'd been lying about their catches to HMRC for years and couldn't suddenly tell the truth to get proper quotas. Fishing is pretty much back to where it was anyway.

Nick try telling that to the people who have gone bankrupt and/or are now out of work. (100 inshore fishing boats gone in Cornwall in the last year. )
Fishing is going down hill fast.

Why Devon and Cornwall fishermen feel disillusioned after Brexit - BBC News

[Nick]

No but it is to be expected. I would not want to be a Tory door canvasser locally. (Given how the Tory dog's Brexit has damaged the farming and fishing, plus the number of WASPI women.)
That is why the No canvassers notice on my front door.

Farming was always going to suffer a short term dip as they had to start actually farming for a change, instead of being paid by the EU to keep their cartel prices high. 
And as I've told you 10 times, fishermen have suffered since Quotas were brought in because they'd been lying about their catches to HMRC for years and couldn't suddenly tell the truth to get proper quotas. Fishing is pretty much back to where it was anyway. 

[Nick]

No but it is to be expected. I would not want to be a Tory door canvasser locally. (Given how the Tory dog's Brexit has damaged the farming and fishing, plus the number of WASPI women.)
That is why the No canvassers notice on my front door.

It's to be expected from people with limited brain power. You just see yourself as some kind of midget mafia. 

[papasmurf]

Violence,Is that really the answer?

No but it is to be expected. I would not want to be a Tory door canvasser locally. (Given how the Tory dog's Brexit has damaged the farming and fishing, plus the number of WASPI women.)
That is why the No canvassers notice on my front door.

[cromwell]

Violence,Is that really the answer?

No it's not,if you don't like the doorsteppers politics set out why but if you can't be bothered or don't have sufficient intellect to do so  then the Jehovah's Witness goodbye is the only alternative.

As soon as you offer violence you've lost the argument.

 

[papasmurf]

Pathetic, change the record.

Nick just because you have no perception at all of the deep anger towards the Tories, that is your fault not mine.