Just stop Oiliband

[Nick]

Nick you do not live here and have zero experience of the local conditions.  I have lived here over 40 years, and the salty air literally eats anything electrical or metal rapidly. It is one of the reasons electrical wiring has been mainly put underground over the years. (That and local regulation.) As previously stated for insurance reasons our car and motorcycles HAVE to be in the garage over night.)
Plus I really do not want to be outside in a force 10 or more, when it is persisting down with rain doing anything involving electricity.

Simple physics, your sea air is no more corrosive than my sea air. 
And as per your insurance, you have clearly lied about going to motorbike rallies as your motorbike wouldn't have been in your garage. Your stories are like Swiss cheese they have that many holes in them. 

[papasmurf]

Then you'll have to buy a tandem

Nothing at all wrong with my current petrol car. Got years left in it yet. (Also I cannot ride a bicycle because of age and decrepitude.)

[cromwell]

Nick you do not live here and have zero experience of the local conditions.  I have lived here over 40 years, and the salty air literally eats anything electrical or metal rapidly. It is one of the reasons electrical wiring has been mainly put underground over the years. (That and local regulation.) As previously stated for insurance reasons our car and motorcycles HAVE to be in the garage over night.)
Plus I really do not want to be outside in a force 10 or more, when it is persisting down with rain doing anything involving electricity.

Then you'll have to buy a tandem 

[papasmurf]

Your air is no more salty than mine, it's what living near the coast entails. My charger has been on the wall for over 2 years, it looks no different than the day I installed it.

Nick you do not live here and have zero experience of the local conditions.  I have lived here over 40 years, and the salty air literally eats anything electrical or metal rapidly. It is one of the reasons electrical wiring has been mainly put underground over the years. (That and local regulation.) As previously stated for insurance reasons our car and motorcycles HAVE to be in the garage over night.)
Plus I really do not want to be outside in a force 10 or more, when it is persisting down with rain doing anything involving electricity.

[Nick]

Nick as explained where I live the charger would HAVE to be in my garage or the salt atmosphere would "eat it," in no time all. I mentioned  the amps because that is the latest generation of charged.
Local regulations mean I would have to run the cable underground from the mains box in my home to the garage.
Nick I am a lot closer to the sea than half a mile. The mains powers to the area has been been mainly put underground over the years because otherwise the salt atmosphere eats it. (We also get 80-100mph gales on a fairly regular basis.)
32/40 amp chargers are the latest generation.

Edited to add, if our cars and motorcycles are not garaged at my home overnight they are NOT insured.

Your air is no more salty than mine, it's what living near the coast entails. My charger has been on the wall for over 2 years, it looks no different than the day I installed it. 
Do you think your garage is airtight? Cause I have news for you, the air in your garage is the same as outside, and the box doesn't benefit from being washed by the rain. 

2 points about your magic insurance, firstly the wording will be where is the vehicle usually housed, otherwise how do you go to your rallies? Secondly, chargers do actually work during the day. 

It's all immaterial anyway, if you only have 10 bob to spend on a car you aren't getting an electric car. 

[papasmurf]

A 32A breaker will cover all home chargers, why you're talking about 40 amps I don't know. The charger doesn't need to be in a garage, mine is on the si de of my house and I'm about half a mile from the sea, no corrosion. You keep saying you don't live in Helston and are XYZ miles from the nearest Tesco so you can't be any closer to the sea than me, not that a few meters would make a difference.

Nick as explained where I live the charger would HAVE to be in my garage or the salt atmosphere would "eat it," in no time all. I mentioned  the amps because that is the latest generation of charged.
Local regulations mean I would have to run the cable underground from the mains box in my home to the garage.
Nick I am a lot closer to the sea than half a mile. The mains powers to the area has been been mainly put underground over the years because otherwise the salt atmosphere eats it. (We also get 80-100mph gales on a fairly regular basis.)
32/40 amp chargers are the latest generation.

Edited to add, if our cars and motorcycles are not garaged at my home overnight they are NOT insured.

[papasmurf]

And some simple facts for Nick. When a lot younger I found myself on the dole for a few months between jobs. Whilst on the dole I owned a motorbike, an expensive state of the art (for the day) hifi system, and a big colour TV. But I had these things because I paid for them when I was working. When I lost my job these things were already bought and paid for, so represented little cost. So you should never assume that just because they are not working now that these expensive things were paid for by benefits. Usually they were either paid for out of previous employment or out of some illicit income of some kind

Quite. But that I am afraid is too difficult for Tories, pub professors, ill informed pundits, and gutter press journalists to understand.

[srb7677]

They can't despite the Daily Mail propaganda.  (Unless they are involved in some kind of criminal activity.)

Indeed. The poor on benefits who have these things usually either paid for them when working and better off, or have some illicit income of some kind, ranging from sex work to fencing stolen goods, to drug dealing, or simply working cash in hand somewhere.  

And the working poor like me struggle to keep a car on the road but it is nevertheless essential because public transport to and from my place of work 16 miles away is so hopelessly crap as to be next to useless. No car, no job. 

And some simple facts for Nick. When a lot younger I found myself on the dole for a few months between jobs. Whilst on the dole I owned a motorbike, an expensive state of the art (for the day) hifi system, and a big colour TV. But I had these things because I paid for them when I was working. When I lost my job these things were already bought and paid for, so represented little cost. So you should never assume that just because they are not working now that these expensive things were paid for by benefits. Usually they were either paid for out of previous employment or out of some illicit income of some kind

[Nick]

Due to the requirement for underground cabling where I live plus realistically a 13 amp  supply is as much use as a chocolate spanner, it would cost me around £3000 to install an 32/40 amps 240V  EV charger in my garage. I don't have a spare "trip" at the mains box for a start. An outside charging point is a no, due to the proximity to the sea, (salty atmosphere rots outside electrics very quickly.)

A 32A breaker will cover all home chargers, why you're talking about 40 amps I don't know. The charger doesn't need to be in a garage, mine is on the si de of my house and I'm about half a mile from the sea, no corrosion. You keep saying you don't live in Helston and are XYZ miles from the nearest Tesco so you can't be any closer to the sea than me, not that a few meters would make a difference. 

[Nick]

They can't despite the Daily Mail propaganda.  (Unless they are involved in some kind of criminal activity.)

You're deluded, it happens all the time. Just cause you don't believe it doesn't make it untrue. 

[Barry]

Due to the requirement for underground cabling where I live plus realistically a 13 amp  supply is as much use as a chocolate spanner, it would cost me around £3000 to install an 32/40 amps 240V  EV charger in my garage. I don't have a spare "trip" at the mains box for a start. An outside charging point is a no, due to the proximity to the sea, (salty atmosphere rots outside electrics very quickly.)

A model three Tesla can be charged to 72% overnight on a 3kW supply. It's more use than a chocolate spanner.

[papasmurf]

 How can someone on benefits have a car, massive TV and brand new £1500 iPhone 15?

They can't despite the Daily Mail propaganda.  (Unless they are involved in some kind of criminal activity.) 

[Nick]

How is that supposed to work for a second floor flat.

It's not, it's a way of removing cars from the poor and whacking the rich with taxes. It's a way of restoring order after CarCraft, Brighthouse and such gave the "Under Class" things they should never be able to afford. How can someone on benefits have a car, massive TV and brand new £1500 iPhone 15?
The system has to give and this is how that stem is going to achieve that. It's going to be like the Jetsons, anyone who owns a car will have it in a central location on charge and a Jetsons style self drive car will come and take them to their car. There is no other way this green pipe dream will work:- unless technology that has been hurried for years is SUDDENLY released. 

[papasmurf]

To be fair he is . Just needs to be the EV specific extension , 20m one is about £250 from various outlets

Due to the requirement for underground cabling where I live plus realistically a 13 amp  supply is as much use as a chocolate spanner, it would cost me around £3000 to install an 32/40 amps 240V  EV charger in my garage. I don't have a spare "trip" at the mains box for a start. An outside charging point is a no, due to the proximity to the sea, (salty atmosphere rots outside electrics very quickly.)

[Streetwalker]

Obviously you are not up to speed with what is needed for EV chargers.

To be fair he is . Just needs to be the EV specific extension , 20m one is about £250 from various outlets