Reform UK steals Conservatives' countryside vote as it plunders 'Rural Right'

[Nick]

It is fact not a "heap or poo." I have been into heat pumps in depth and detail. They are not suitable for millions of homes.

That's cause millions of people don't have gardens, but you have to put some BS angle on it as usual. As I said, a house heated by any source looses heat exactly the same. 

[Unlucky4Sum]

It is fact not a "heap or poo." I have been into heat pumps in depth and detail. They are not suitable for millions of homes.

But you didn't say they did you.  You went for the stupidly exaggerated 'Unless you have very efficient thermal insulation on your home they are as much use as a chocolate spanner.'

Which was of course untrue.

[papasmurf]

This heap of poo

All you have manged to show since is that if a home if not well insulated then a heat pump may be unable to get it as warm as the occupants might like and maybe could achieve with gas.  Which is not the same as your wildly exagerated original boast.

It is fact not a "heap or poo." I have been into heat pumps in depth and detail. They are not suitable for millions of homes. 

[Unlucky4Sum]

What earlier post?
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This heap of poo

I looked at heat pumps. Unless you have very efficient thermal insulation on your home they are as much use as a chocolate spanner. In the case of my home there is nowhere to install a heat pump.

All you have manged to show since is that if a home if not well insulated then a heat pump may be unable to get it as warm as the occupants might like and maybe could achieve with gas.  Which is not the same as your wildly exagerated original boast.

[papasmurf]

Which doesn't back your earlier post (7)

What earlier post?


The Disadvantages of Air Source Heat Pumps (renewableenergyhub.co.uk)


The main disadvantages associated with air source heat pumps are listed below:

• Lower heat supply compared to oil and gas boilers, so larger radiators could be needed
  Generally, if radiators are doubles and the pipework is 15mm not microbore, the CH system may not need many changes. 
• They perform better with underfloor heating or warm air heating and work more efficiently when coupled with larger radiators
• They can take quite some time to heat up
  Heat pumps are designed to be on most of the time, to create an ambient temperature. Due to this, starting one up from cold will take longer to heat the property than a standard combustion boiler. 
• Air source heat pumps may not lower your heating bill if you're on gas mains
  Although ASHP systems are up to 4x more efficient than gas boilers, gas is up to 4x cheaper by the unit, so the potential savings of switching to an ASHP from a modern gas boiler may not be that much. 
• They need electricity to be powered if there is no access to solar energy or wind power
  As stated above, electricity is expensive. Make sure you understand the running costs when looking to install an ASHP. 
• You would need a highly insulated home to reap the high energy savings benefits
  Heat pumps are designed for modern properties and although there are now high temperature heat pumps, you will often need to improve your homes energy efficiency for a heat pump to work effectively. 
• Noisy like an air conditioner when it is running
  Some ASHP systems are louder than others, there are now 'whisper quiet' systems that make virtually no noise at all.  
• Need to run constantly during the winter, which can increase your running costs. 
• Less efficient in winter due to low Coefficient of Performance (COP) levels
• The cost of installing an air source heat pump is usually between £7,000- £13,000
  Even with the Government's Boiler Upgrade Scheme grant of £7500, an ASHP can cost more upfront than less green alternatives. 
• To have a high return in terms of saving from purchasing and using an air source heat pump, it is important to have a well-insulated home. 
   

[Unlucky4Sum]

A lot, if you want a heat pump to heat your home in winter.


(1) Is my home suitable for a heat pump? | Vaillant

Which doesn't back your earlier post (7)

[Nick]

My home is not badly insulated it is merely not up to the standard need for using a heat pump to heat my home. My current central heating system is more than adequate. It would cost a lot of money on top of the cost of a heat pump. (Which there is nowhere to install in my home.)
When people trying to sell me a heat pump give up because of the difficulties needed to overcome to fit one to my home it is a bit of a clue.

What is the difference between a heat pump warming your house to 21 degrees and a boiler heating your house to 21 degrees?

[papasmurf]

Regardless of the source of heat, having a badly insulated house is inefficient. That applies to boilers as well.

My home is not badly insulated it is merely not up to the standard need for using a heat pump to heat my home. My current central heating system is more than adequate. It would cost a lot of money on top of the cost of a heat pump. (Which there is nowhere to install in my home.)
When people trying to sell me a heat pump give up because of the difficulties needed to overcome to fit one to my home it is a bit of a clue.

[Nick]

A lot, if you want a heat pump to heat your home in winter.


(1) Is my home suitable for a heat pump? | Vaillant

Regardless of the source of heat, having a badly insulated house is inefficient. That applies to boilers as well. 

[papasmurf]

What has thermal efficiency got to do with heat pumps?

A lot, if you want a heat pump to heat your home in winter.


(1) Is my home suitable for a heat pump? | Vaillant

[Nick]

I looked at heat pumps. Unless you have very efficient thermal insulation on your home they are as much use as a chocolate spanner. In the case of my home there is nowhere to install a heat pump.

What has thermal efficiency got to do with heat pumps?

[papasmurf]

I looked at heat pumps. Unless you have very efficient thermal insulation on your home they are as much use as a chocolate spanner. In the case of my home there is nowhere to install a heat pump.

[Borg Refinery]

Anti-Net Zero Reform MP Owns Green Tech Company

Rupert Lowe, a newly elected MP for Nigel Farage's anti-net zero party Reform UK, is the owner of a firm specialising in heat pumps – a flagship clean heating technology.

Reform's 2024 election manifesto advocated scrapping the UK's net zero targets and renewable energy subsidies, including those promoting the uptake of heat pumps.

Lowe, who shares Reform's views on net zero, has previously claimed that there is a "cult of climate change" promoting unscientific theories about rising temperatures and their effects. The Great Yarmouth MP has suggested that "we are heading towards the Stone Age in a desperate pursuit" of net zero, has advocated for a referendum on the 2050 target, and has urged the government to cut its "net zero nonsense".

However, Lowe's register of interests shows that – despite his anti-climate views – he is the owner of Alto Energy, a UK supplier of air and ground source heat pumps.

Heat pumps use electricity rather than fossil fuels, and are up to five times more efficient than gas boilers according to the International Energy Agency. As the UK increases the proportion of electricity that it generates via renewable energy sources, the widespread deployment of heat pumps will allow the country to reduce its emissions from heating.

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On 16 July, Alto Energy published an analysis saying that the new Labour government should "prioritise investments in green technologies like heat pumps".

It added: "After all, moving away from fossil fuel heating systems is crucial for achieving energy independence and net zero targets."

Reform's leader Nigel Farage has openly criticised the move towards heat pumps, claiming on GB News that they are "a rich man's game".

Reform proposes scrapping government grants that promote the development and rollout of green technologies, which would have included a scheme used by Lowe to install heat pumps on his own properties.

Quoted by the Sunday Telegraph in August 2019, he said: "I have chosen to install heat pumps at a new stable and horse training facility on my farm in Gloucestershire. Heat pumps are definitely the way to go now as they'll cost me far less to run than oil or [liquefied petroleum gas]. I'm also going to get a good return on investment under the government Renewable Heat Incentive scheme, which is paying me for installing green technology".

You've got to love Reform UK

[Borg Refinery]

Isn't it widely reported that Sue Gray is infighting in Labour right now as we speak? The Labour backstabbing has been well publicised, the Tory backstabbing has been well publicised as has fights at the top and every level of the party internally, it's not well hidden because the parties leak like a sieve

The public just want to get rid of corrupt parties period, so I don't blame them for going for the throat with Reform just as they should with all the other parties, Lab, LDs, Greens, Tories, you name it

[Nick]

The Reform dictatorship continues


https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-reform-paul-oakden-0jwjrpj2g

Looks like all the main parties are collapsing into back & front stabbing, side stabbing, every other kind of stabbing. The sooner they dissolve up their own farces the better as far as I'm concerned

All parties have change of personnel, who knows when backstage people get booted in Labour and the Tories? It's only cause it's Reform and the other parties are desperate to get rid of them that it is reported.