New Book Details How Insiders Schemed To Replace Corbynism With ‘Blue Labour’

Started by Borg Refinery, September 16, 2024, 02:31:20 PM

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Unlucky4Sum

It's so sad your education failed you so you don't understand a '?' indicated a question.

And a fair question after you posted 'Blairite values are even more slippery and weaselly than Liz Truss's values, or Bojo's or countless others'

Blair that brought in the minimum wage, the Human Rights Act, in work benefits for the poorly paid and invested billions more than the Tories in both education and health is according to you worse than Truss.  So yes it's very fair to ask if you see anyone to the centre of Karl Marx as being a Tory.

Your petulant response just shows you know exactly that's what you communicated.

Borg Refinery

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on September 17, 2024, 05:47:48 PM
So in your book anyone nearer to the centre than Karl Marx is a Tory?


As others have pointed out again and again, as I've just seen in another thread here about the labour social housing thing - all you do is lie about absolutely everything everyone says

It's impossible to have a debate with you, you aren't capable

This was in the opening post, but as you have to lie about everything, you pretended to merely not notice it:

Not a fan of Corbyn, Corbynism or far-leftism

From here on in, I'm simply going to skip over all your posts, as you offer nothing worth debating
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Unlucky4Sum


Borg Refinery

Hilarious

We're being told true Labour values are Tony Blair's values - the values of Keir Starmer

You couldn't make it up

I don't agree with Labour or any of their values, but Blairite values are even more slippery and weaselly than Liz Truss's values, or Bojo's or countless others

Starmer is Col Blimp and look how supposed labourites are flocking to him - seriously, their economic and political strategy as well as their social strategy virtually mirrors the Tories yet folks are lapping it up.

I thought Bojonomics and Trussnomics was dead, but look at the new Labour blue rinse brigade pushing it. Look at how Starmer's looking to copy Giorgia Meloni's policies and how close he is to these far-right leaders - and tell me with a straight face these are "labour values"

Ah, maybe they are, Ramsey Macdonald, one of the earliest labour leaders - he also stabbed the country in the back did he not, and implemented austerity as part of a "national government" when he himself was then, in turn, stabbed in the back by his coalition partners

Same old Labour, same old Labourites, blame everyone else but themselves for the state of their country - and their party - and their leaders' appalling polling and accuse everyone else of being a Tory/col blimp/everything they are
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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: patman post on September 16, 2024, 04:18:22 PM
Labour faithful remained true to their core beliefs and knew Corbyn was an aberration.

Similarly, Tory faithful were unable to continue to stomach the dishonest antics of Johnson. Their misfortune was to have  had their reasoning so polluted, they allowed the Tunbridge Wells blue rinses and Col Blimps to inflict Truss on the country...
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And the irony was those Tunbridge Wellers ended up gifting the seat to the Libs

patman post

Labour faithful remained true to their core beliefs and knew Corbyn was an aberration.

Similarly, Tory faithful were unable to continue to stomach the dishonest antics of Johnson. Their misfortune was to have  had their reasoning so polluted, they allowed the Tunbridge Wells blue rinses and Col Blimps to inflict Truss on the country...
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Borg Refinery

QuoteA new book has outlined how the plot to rid Labour of Cobynism was initiated by Westminster insiders in the wake of the 2017 general election when the now-independent MP came within a few thousand votes of defeating the Conservatives.

Taken as Red: How Labour Won Big and the Tories Crashed the Party, details how Labour Together set about ridding the party of 'hard left' ideals and replacing them with electable, centre-right policies.

Morgan McSweeney, who now works as the head of political strategy under Prime Minister Keir Starmer, received backing from two wealthy donors, businessman Trevor Chinn and hedge fund owner Martin Taylor, to defeat Jeremy Corbyn.

Anushka Asthana suggests that McSweeney's biggest fear was that Labour might actually win an election because that would prevent the renewal they were focused on.


The strategist also displayed an unhealthy obsession with alt-left websites such as the Canary, which had been propelled into the limelight on the back of Facebook groups.

McSweeney had an aim, Asthana noted, which was to schmooze the Guardian and kill the Canary.

"Destroy the Canary or the Canary destroys us," he told the Labour Together MPs.

Exclusive extracts from the book also suggest Corbyn's appearance at Glastonbury was a key moment which stuck in the craw of McSweeney.

He later told a friend that he saw this as Corbyn's "Icarus moment", in which he imagined the Labour leader standing backstage at Glastonbury with a choice: take that election result and turn to the country to cement the deal; or walk into the warm embrace of festivalgoers, who were unrepresentative of the wider electorate.
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Related: I saw from the inside how Labour staff worked to prevent a Labour government

Not a fan of Corbyn, Corbynism or far-leftism, but Lab sabotaging itself to install this new bunch of chancers is flatly anti-democratic, period
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