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[Unlucky4Sum]

Nick this was where you deliberately misquoted me

You've argued for days that you never knew anyone travelling that wasn't provided with a house, now you're suddenly backpedaling stating that they don't follow the scenario you've been arguing MP's should have. And no, it doesn't cost £400 a night for a hotel in London, MP's are limited to £190 a night for a Hotel.

And where did you get the stat that an MP travels to London for 20 years?

I've shown you using bold text where that was meaningfully false and clearly from your latest post, deliberately so.

Do stop digging

[Nick]

And still you swerve all over the place in your made up accounts of what I've posted.

Re your latest twist just read what I actually posted in post 77 on that point again.  I will help you by emphasising the very relevant points that either don't seem to get through your skull or you malevolently pretend weren't posted.

So you said you've never met anyone who spends 150 days away from home in one location that wasn't provided with a home? Correct? I can quote you if you disagree. 

You also stated that an MP will spend 150 days in london? Correct? I can quote you if you disagree. 

But you accuse me of misquoting you in the usual "Steve the swerve" way and try to make it look like I am wrong. 

You are comparing your experience of people working away with that of an MP, yet you fail to see the difference between renting an AirB&B with buying a house in central London. 

Either point out precisely where my account is incorrect or concede your mistake, this isn't VagueBook. 

[Unlucky4Sum]

At least Smurf tried to defend Labour robbing pensioners, rather than talk about something else. . .

How is not giving someone something supposedly 'robbing' which is actually taking from someone?  

[papasmurf]

At least Smurf tried to defend Labour robbing pensioners, rather than talk about something else.

I am NOT defending Labour robbing pensioners. (The Tories already had robbed £1000 off of me and my wife due to fiscal drag.)  I am waiting for the budget, to get a clearer picture.

[Barry]

Not all pensioners.  Winter Fuel Payments are to be restricted to those on benefits and Pension Credit.

At least Smurf tried to defend Labour robbing pensioners, rather than talk about something else.

There are indications that changes in government bond finances may give the Treasury an extra £10 billion to play with and there could yet be a double u-turn on this issue.

[Unlucky4Sum]

We are comparing travel to what MP's do and you basically said you never met anyone that does what an MP does and is not provided with a house. You can argue about the exact wording but that's what you said.

Do you know anyone that travelled extensively for a living that wasn't provided with a house?

And still you swerve all over the place in your made up accounts of what I've posted.

Re your latest twist just read what I actually posted in post 77 on that point again.  I will help you by emphasising the very relevant points that either don't seem to get through your skull or you malevolently pretend weren't posted.

. . I have never met anyone that spent 150 days away from home a year on business at the same location that didn't have a home provided for them.   . .  .

[Nick]

No you are either being stupid or lying again.  Neither of those means  'You've argued for days that you never knew anyone travelling that wasn't provided with a house . .  .'

Maybe you really don't understand basic English words like 'anyone'  please say.

We are comparing travel to what MP's do and you basically said you never met anyone that does what an MP does and is not provided with a house. You can argue about the exact wording but that's what you said. 

Do you know anyone that travelled extensively for a living that wasn't provided with a house?

[Unlucky4Sum]

No you are either being stupid or lying again.  Neither of those means  'You've argued for days that you never knew anyone travelling that wasn't provided with a house . .  .'

Maybe you really don't understand basic English words like 'anyone'  please say.

[Nick]

Big Fat Lie

Well you've either got dementia or are telling porky lies.

Oh and when we needed people to be over 4 days week after week at a non commutable site we paid for them to have a second home - and yes we paid the energy bills.  That's because we weren't a shit employer and knew that if you want to keep talent don't treat them like dirt.

I have never met anyone that spent 150 days away from home a year on business at the same location that didn't have a home provided for them.  Hotel life away from family becomes soul destroying to anyone with a soul when the novelty of a new destination wears off.  

[Unlucky4Sum]

Well lets start with your first sentence

You've argued for days that you never knew anyone travelling that wasn't provided with a house . .  .

Big Fat Lie

[Nick]

Good grief are you still posting these deliberate misrepresentations of my posts.  Do go back and read them again and you'll realise how false this last missive from you is.

Until then there's no point replying to false posts.

Which part is false? The fact that you think MP's should be bought a second home, or that you said every employee had a home provided?

[papasmurf]

Good grief are you still posting these deliberate misrepresentations of my posts.  Do go back and read them again and you'll realise how false this last missive from you is.

Until then there's no point replying to false posts.

Quite.

[Unlucky4Sum]

You've argued for days that you never knew anyone travelling that wasn't provided with a house, now you're suddenly backpedaling stating that they don't follow the scenario you've been arguing MP's should have. And no, it doesn't cost £400 a night for a hotel in London, MP's are limited to £190 a night for a Hotel.

And where did you get the stat that an MP travels to London for 20 years?

Good grief are you still posting these deliberate misrepresentations of my posts.   Do go back and read them again and you'll realise how false this last missive from you is.

Until then there's no point replying to false posts.

[Nick]

Not me playing games with words but you are deliberately twisting mine.

I never said a client bought a house (the employer long term leased/rented them)

I've no doubt a few people like you are up for spending 12 weeks straight in one location but most people are not and limiting our MPs stock to be Nick clones would on inspection seem to be a non representative plan.  And even that would be to ignore that we're not talking a one off stay of 12 weeks are we.  We're talking a typically 20 year stretch of spending 40 weeks a year in the same destination.  And you want that all spent in the £400 a night London Crowne Plazas - and that's for the smallest room they have.  Hardly a family life option and a cost of £60k+ a year. 

You've argued for days that you never knew anyone travelling that wasn't provided with a house, now you're suddenly backpedaling stating that they don't follow the scenario you've been arguing MP's should have. And no, it doesn't cost £400 a night for a hotel in London, MP's are limited to £190 a night for a Hotel.

And where did you get the stat that an MP travels to London for 20 years?

[Unlucky4Sum]

Where have I EVER said I hate MP's, that is utter nonsense?
I know it's allowed but that doesn't make it right, they don't need to buy a house in London, it's unnecessary use of my tax. Same as Rachel Freeze doesn't need £4000 of my tax to pay energy bills when her and her husband have a combined income of just under £400K a year. It's all a big scam, permitted or not.

If it's not dishonest then it is NOT a scam.  And if (as it is) it's to the published policy with all monies declared, scrutinised and published it's not dishonest.  Calling it a scam though . . . .

And I said my opinion was you hated MPs.  All your posts above certainly convey that message with your wish to deny those from distant constituencies a family life.