Scottish independence voters switching to support the Union

[Thomas]

I refuse to accept any criticism of the Scotsman Tommy. It printed my daughter's name in the graduation edition when she got her first Class MA in something or other from Edinburgh University and I still have half a dozen copies of their splendid publication. I don't know what The Scotsman's politics are but I am sure that they are sound.

The scotsman is a rag of ridicule in scotland. It is laughingly entitled the "north britishman" in view of its partizan pro union politics and evisceral hatred of the SNP  and anything remotely to do with scottish indy .



Its normally read only by a handfull of old over 60 scottish unionists , and its current daily circulation is a mere 14 ,938 copies in a nation of 5.6 million people. This includes both paper copies sold and internet subscriptions.



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[Borchester]

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Wee jamesy got it covered in this link borkie.......













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panic stations on hms brittannia .  :-P

I refuse to accept any criticism of the Scotsman Tommy. It printed my daughter's name in the graduation edition when she got her first Class MA in something or other from Edinburgh University and I still have half a dozen copies of their splendid publication. I don't know what The Scotsman's politics are but I am sure that they are sound.



I found the link on IMDB2 at



 http://imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/193857/scottish-independence-voters-switching-support">http://imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/1938 ... ng-support">http://imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/193857/scottish-independence-voters-switching-support



and the bloke who provided it is desperately anti SNP, which is a bit rough on him because most of the other posters are Yanks and all they know about Scotland is that Rob Roy was Irish because Liam Neeson is from Ulster.



So if you would like to pop over and give Carl LaFong a bollocking  he would be tickled pink because he is desperate for someone to talk to.  

[Thomas]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-scottish-independence-voters-switching-to-support-the-union-1-5030614">www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-scottish-independence-voters-switching-to-support-the-union-1-5030614

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Wee jamesy got it covered in this link borkie.......

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2019

The Scotsman newspaper should be deeply ashamed of lying to its readers - yes, lying - in today's headline about an independence poll

So, right on cue, the Survation poll with the confusing question that I mentioned in my previous post has been trotted out by the Scotsman newspaper, and they've done exactly the same thing that the Sun newspaper did in its reporting of the previous poll in the series - they've told their readers a downright lie about the trend shown by the results.  The headline reads "Poll: Scottish independence supporters switching to back the Union".  In fact the poll shows the complete opposite of that - it shows that voters have swung towards independence since the previous poll.



The percentage of respondents who say that they "completely support Scotland becoming independent" has increased from 24% in the previous poll (conducted in March) to 26% now.  By contrast, the percentage of respondents who say that they "completely support Scotland staying part of the UK" has fallen in the same period from 40% to 37%.



If you also take into account respondents who are not on one of the two extremes, the pro-Yes trend is even stronger.  The percentage of respondents who are on the pro-independence side of the 0-10 scale has increased significantly from 35% in March to 40% now, while the percentage of respondents on the anti-independence side of the scale has declined sharply from 58% to 51%.



It's rare that we can simply say that a newspaper has lied, as opposed to just misleading its readers or telling half-truths, but this is one of those rare occasions.  The headline contains no quotation marks, and it doesn't say "according to Scotland in Union" or something like that (although I think we can make a fairly safe guess that's how this story came to appear).  It simply tells a direct lie.



As for the question of why this poll format produces such different numbers from standard Yes/No polls, there's something of a mystery.  We know from David Halliday's screenshot that at least some respondents were confusingly asked to regard the number zero as being the pro-independence end of the scale, and the number ten as being the anti-independence end of the scale - which may well explain why a wildly implausible 16% of Yes voters from 2014 are now supposedly expressing "complete support" for Scotland remaining in the UK.  (The equivalent figure from the March poll was almost identical.)  And yet the Survation datasets suggest that the opposite was done, and that the number ten was in fact the pro-independence end of the scale.  Are the datasets inaccurate?  Was there a dummy poll conducted in a different way for research purposes?  Either way, it does seem very surprising that Angus Robertson's Progress Scotland have persisted in commissioning polls using this format after the results produced in the spring proved to be so totally out of line with the results of conventional independence polling.

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panic stations on hms brittannia .  :-P

[Barry]

Hmmm 37/26 what do the other 37% think?

[Borchester]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-scottish-independence-voters-switching-to-support-the-union-1-5030614">www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-scottish-independence-voters-switching-to-support-the-union-1-5030614