Govt Plans Leak: Water Rations, Food Shortage For 2nd C19 Wave & N-D Brexit

[Thomas]

But I would say it is covid BULLSHIT we are weary of.

COVID – why terminology really, really matters

Since the start of the COVID pandemic I have watched almost everyone get mission critical things wrong. In some ways this is not surprising. Medical terminology is horribly imprecise, and often poorly understood. In calmer times such things are only of interest to research geeks like me. Were they talking about CVD, or CHD?

However, right now, it really, really, matters. Specifically, with regards to the term COVID 'cases.'

Every day we are informed of a worrying rise in COVID cases in country after country, region after region, city after city. Portugal, France, Leicester, Bolton. Panic, lockdown, quarantine. In France the number of reported cases is now as high as it was at the peak of the epidemic. Over 5,000, on the first of September.

But what does this actually mean? Just to keep the focus on France for a moment. On March 26th, just before their deaths peaked, there were 3,900 hundred 'cases'. Fourteen days later, there were 1,400 deaths. So, using a widely accepted figure, which is a delay of around two weeks between diagnoses and death, 36% of cases died.

In stark contrast, on August 16th, there were 3,000 cases. Fourteen days later there were 26 deaths.  Which means that, in March, 36% of 'cases' died. In August 0.8% of 'cases' died. This, in turn, means that COVID was 45 times as deadly in March, as it was in August?

This seems extremely unlikely. In fact, it is so unlikely that it is, in fact, complete rubbish. What we have is a combination of nonsense figures which, added together, create nonsense squared. Or nonsense to the power ten.

Talking of covid bullshit john ( totally agree) interesting article here by dr. malcolm kendrick on "covid bullshit"

That represents 1 death for every 300 positive swabs or, as the mainstream media insists on calling them, positive 'cases'. Which, currently, represent a case fatality rate of 0.33%. Just to compare that with something similar, the case fatality rate of swine flu (HIN1),  was 0.5%. 2

Thus, lo and behold, COVID is a less severe infection than swine flu – the pandemic that never was. That's what these figures appear to tell us. They tell us almost exactly the same in France where they 'appear' to have a current case fatality rate of 0.4%.

Experts talking bullshit....

Our experts are, essentially, talking gibberish, and the mainstream media is lapping it up. They are defining asymptomatic swabs as cases, and no-one is calling them out on it. Why?

Whilst everyone is panicking about the ever-increasing number of cases, we should be celebrating them. They are demonstrating, very clearly, that COVID is far, far, less deadly then was feared. The Infection Fatality Rate is most likely going to end up around 0.1%, not 1%.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/

[Borg Refinery]

It was a joke. 😑!

You just seem very Opinionated, somehow, Susan.

Well we aren't all like sheep are we Baah-rry.

[Barry]

It was a joke. 😑!

You just seem very Opinionated, somehow, Susan.

[Thomas]

Everyone knows the hospitals round here were full of COVID19 cases but few bothered to understand this was because the two hospitals serving this area were deliberately filled with patients bussed to them from all over wales,  largely a political ploy to divert money to a pet project trauma centre up the road that has been on and off for twenty years and is now magically going to open its doors in two months to deal with the non-existent winter horde of dead and dying.

Yes, people have died.  Yes, people spent months out of their head sedated in intensive care, one of the women who work with my wife was.

But I would say it is covid BULLSHIT we are weary of.

What john?

You mean the labour run welsh nhs has had major problems with covid 19 too? The holier than thou labour ? The very people who tell us scotland and england under the snp and tory havent handled covid 19 very well have had problems too?

Who could believe it john!

I thought the rest of the world according to the british left outside scotland and england had done a magnificent job of handling covid 19?

Surprise feckin surprise.

But I would say it is covid BULLSHIT we are weary of.

Yep totally agree mate , especially the bullshit the media and those on the british left hysterically come out with day in day out.

[Thomas]

I'm English myself, .

Go get a sense of humour.

I have a sense of humour as everyone on this forum knows , and i know you are english so stop diverting.

The point is , you thought sheepy was welsh , and laughed at racist jokes and prejudiced comments regarding the scottish and welsh. I dont have a problem with that , i have heard much worse over the years , and i can more than dish it out back.

However , cast your mind back to the other week on here where you and yer pal cromwell were trying to outdo each other on the purity levels regarding race and prejudice.

Its the height of feckin hypocrisy to listen to you on the brit left make racist jokes and cariacatures about those you deem acceptable to feel prejudice about ,while screaming racist at others for making jokes about BAME.

Remember the 100 000 race hate crimes recorded in england and wales we talked about? It included as i pointed out the very thing you are engaged in.......racism directed at white minorities within the yookay.

Next time you and yer pal talk about race and prejudice , remember to pass along the sick bags to the rest of the forum.

Wonder what yer pal dawn butler would make of patman posts casual white racism on this forum , or mr momentum from plymouth casually tossing off racist comments about the jocks and taffs?

Feckin hilarious.

Dont ever try and take the moral high ground with me ever again on racism pal. I will remind you of this thread , and point out your hypocrisy.

[johnofgwent]

I do hope you are right but will that stop the masses believing the worst - after all the media seems to thrive on disasters - and clearing the shelves and warehouses once again? I'm topping up now - just in case you understand.

john is right toots.

The public have now become covid weary , and have stopped giving a shit. The media have over egged the pudding , and to paraphrase  borchester , we now know how to enjoy our pandemics.

Well. to give you a specific example, a Llangollen hotel thought they could advertise car parking on site then take a booking and leave it a week before sending me an email blaming the pandemic and the welsh assembly fuckwits for their NOT now having anywhere to park a car or hot breakfasts. That's just cost them several hundred pounds and if they try to whinge they will feel my lawyers boot up their cottage burning sheep shagging arse. I am off to find a hotel that wants my money on terms honestly stated at the time a booking is made... I know there's one in Portmeirion, we're having lunch there

I'm not sure "covid weary" is quite the right term though.

This year has seen us deprived of at least fifty different performing arts and music events, including four nights of glorious pissup a.k.a the Swanage Blues Oktoberfest  and three days of Jazz and All Sorts else at Brecon. My grand-daughter would have been on stage at about ten for her school's choir, six for the musical theatre group, and then half a dozen more "folk festival days" where both my younger daughter and grand-daughter would be on stage doing folk dancing.

Everyone knows the hospitals round here were full of COVID19 cases but few bothered to understand this was because the two hospitals serving this area were deliberately filled with patients bussed to them from all over wales,  largely a political ploy to divert money to a pet project trauma centre up the road that has been on and off for twenty years and is now magically going to open its doors in two months to deal with the non-existent winter horde of dead and dying.

Yes, people have died.  Yes, people spent months out of their head sedated in intensive care, one of the women who work with my wife was.

But I would say it is covid BULLSHIT we are weary of.

[Borg Refinery]

Maybe we are bored of the bullshit and see no point.

For starters I bet you won't even acknowledge the article - which i have read - actually goes some way to state it is painting the perfect storm worst case scenario, and goes so on several occasions, which means it won't happen.

I do hope you are right but will that stop the masses believing the worst - after all the media seems to thrive on disasters - and clearing the shelves and warehouses once again? I'm topping up now - just in case you understand.

I hope he's right too FWIW.

It's not like I get on my hands and knees and pray for plagues of locusts.

I would like the countrie(s) to be a success despite whoever's in power, and despite my hatred for Bojo believe it or not, I want him to do a good job.

But I felt the bizarre summer thunderstorms that spontaneously occurred when he entered No. 10 last year kind of summed it up.

And remember, I am a superstitious reactionary (sinning) Christian fella, so I feel that was rather prophetic as things go.

(Papa has on one ther forum accused me of being "worse than the Taliban" owing to my Christian beliefs that abortion is bad... and stuff like that, I can live with the abuse, that's how things go..)

I guess the whole swearing at folks and engaging in abuse isn't very 'Christian' of me either.  Well I apologize to everyone I've had a go at, even papa.

[srb7677]

Sheepy being Welsh..

Wait a minute. Someone with a name like Sheepy is Welsh?

Lmfao, I best not go there or I will get into trouble.

LMFAO.

The brit left and labour with their identity politics screaming racist at anything that moves , and here we have two of your footsoldiers , dynamis and srb engaging in plain old nasty anti welsh and anti scottish racism.

Feckin brilliant.

The scottish and welsh are nothing  to you on the brit left except voting fodder , as you casually announced the other day when you said scotland was once a good source of "progressive" ( see labour lmfao) votes.

Sheepy is english by the way.

....another identity the brit left hate.

I'm English myself, .

Go get a sense of humour.

[Thomas]

Whereas you've been up since 6am posting here and from what I could see, have made more posts in a few hrs than I make in a whole day.

Unlike the layabouts on the brit left , im up early for work mate.

Wee bit of multi tasking while working.

[Borg Refinery]

Desperation taken to new heights Thomas, it's sad really but there you go. Now I'm off to do something tangible, you keep yattering on mate on here and your other scot forums and facebook and tell me how I spend all day on here. 👍

off you go then dyno. It will give us all a break from your" impartial political analysis and neutral observations on brexit".

Whereas you've been up since 6am posting here and from what I could see, have made more posts in a few hrs than I make in a whole day.

Feck me Thomas, you really do love to self project don't you?

Last time I checked I was a man, but I guess Barry confused me for Sheepy being Welsh..

Seems that you are the one who is confused as you previously posted:

How dare you! My name isn't Marjorie.



..it's Susan.

I blame Johnny Cash.

It was a joke. 😑!

Odd how they stayed away from this one... I guess it can't be refuted easily?

Maybe we are bored of the bullshit and see no point.

For starters I bet you won't even acknowledge the article - which i have read - actually goes some way to state it is painting the perfect storm worst case scenario, and goes so on several occasions, which means it won't happen.

But it is a possibikity - the govt expect it's a serious possibility.

You do accept that I presume?

[Thomas]

I do hope you are right but will that stop the masses believing the worst - after all the media seems to thrive on disasters - and clearing the shelves and warehouses once again? I'm topping up now - just in case you understand.

john is right toots.

The public have now become covid weary , and have stopped giving a shit. The media have over egged the pudding , and to paraphrase  borchester , we now know how to enjoy our pandemics.

[papasmurf]

I'm topping up now - just in case you understand.

Don't forget the two years supply of bog rolls.

[Thomas]

Sheepy being Welsh..

Wait a minute. Someone with a name like Sheepy is Welsh?

Lmfao, I best not go there or I will get into trouble.

LMFAO.

The brit left and labour with their identity politics screaming racist at anything that moves , and here we have two of your footsoldiers , dynamis and srb engaging in plain old nasty anti welsh and anti scottish racism.

Feckin brilliant.

The scottish and welsh are nothing  to you on the brit left except voting fodder , as you casually announced the other day when you said scotland was once a good source of "progressive" ( see labour lmfao) votes.

Sheepy is english by the way.

....another identity the brit left hate.

[T00ts]

Maybe we are bored of the bullshit and see no point.

For starters I bet you won't even acknowledge the article - which i have read - actually goes some way to state it is painting the perfect storm worst case scenario, and goes so on several occasions, which means it won't happen.

I do hope you are right but will that stop the masses believing the worst - after all the media seems to thrive on disasters - and clearing the shelves and warehouses once again? I'm topping up now - just in case you understand.

[johnofgwent]

Odd how they stayed away from this one... I guess it can't be refuted easily?

Maybe we are bored of the bullshit and see no point.

For starters I bet you won't even acknowledge the article - which i have read - actually goes some way to state it is painting the perfect storm worst case scenario, and goes so on several occasions, which means it won't happen.