YouGov 53% YES

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Nick

Quote from: Thomas on November 14, 2020, 06:21:33 PM
Johnson and the tories stance on scot indy certainly seems to be a vote winner for the snp at present dyno , and in danger of setting them back into third place in scotland.

What are they to do?
They can't say that the Brexit referendum is a once in a lifetime thing and then say ok to Indy#2
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Thomas

Quote from: Dynamis on November 14, 2020, 12:01:29 AM
The stupid westminster party bubble are going to get such an almighty kicking in Scotland next election.

Hopefully, with a new Welsh party the same could happen in the Senned.

And maybe some new projects will transform English politics.

Johnson and the tories stance on scot indy certainly seems to be a vote winner for the snp at present dyno , and in danger of setting them back into third place in scotland.
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Thomas

QuoteThe UK Government is currently seeking to pass the Internal Market Bill.  The House of Lords Constitution Committee has stated that the Bill would change the current powers of the Scottish Parliament by allowing the UK Government to override laws passed in Edinburgh, by imposing new restrictions on the Scottish Government in relation to goods and services, and by removing powers from the Scottish Government on state aid.  Do you think these reductions in the Scottish Parliament's powers should only take effect if the Scottish people agree to them in a referendum?
Yes 66%
No 34%

http://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2020/11/scot-goes-pop-panelbase-poll-two-thirds.html#comment-form


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Borg Refinery

The stupid westminster party bubble are going to get such an almighty kicking in Scotland next election.

Hopefully, with a new Welsh party the same could happen in the Senned.

And maybe some new projects will transform English politics.
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Thomas

https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1327014252289339396

QuoteNicola Sturgeon
@NicolaSturgeon
ยท
17h
Massive congratulations to Steve Clarke and the team. After 22 years, @ScotlandNT
men are off to a major tournament. What a lift for the country. Well done!
Clapping hands sign
Flag of Scotland

Not to be outdone by the scottish first minister , i see the colonial broadcaster had to get in on the act and let the jocks know the prime mininster of the empire sends his ( grudgin ) congrats too.

Just in case we get above our place of course .. :D
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Thomas

Quote from: Javert on November 13, 2020, 04:05:19 PM
er...... what happened to all polls are always wrong?

I saw an interesting story yesterday talking about how last time around, the "don't know" voters veered much more towards no than yes, so if that were to happen again, yes needs a bigger lead.

using the quote tags please quote who you are reffering to.

Sometimes polls are good for guiding public opinion , sometimes they gauge public opinion.

Thats yes though been in majority for quite a long time now and steadily rising.

Wee Nick needs to kill two birds with one stone , call the referendum before next summer just in time for us all to have nice new shiny scottish paspports for the euros.

Bet johnson and the rest of the brit nats were gutted the sweaties won last night and qualified.

:D
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Javert

er...... what happened to all polls are always wrong?

I saw an interesting story yesterday talking about how last time around, the "don't know" voters veered much more towards no than yes, so if that were to happen again, yes needs a bigger lead.

Borchester

Quote from: Jaydee on October 05, 2020, 11:52:52 PM
  I can now no longer support Conservatives north or south of the border.

Well, that is the Tories buggered
Algerie Francais !

Thomas

And another good poll.


QuoteShould Scotland be an independent country? (Scot Goes Pop / Panelbase poll)

Yes 56% (+1)
No 44% (-1) 

QuoteScot Goes Pop / Panelbase poll: History made again as the pro-independence vote rises to 56% - the highest ever in a Panelbase poll, and in any online poll conducted by a BPC-affiliated firm

http://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/


That coupled wae the fact scotland rejoined europe last night part 1. :D

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Thomas

QuoteYougov UK Westminster intention, Scots subsample
58% SNP
16% Con
16% Lab
3% Lib
3% Green


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/use3qqelyz/TheTimes_VI_Tracker_201022_W.pdf
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Jaydee

Quote from: morayloon on September 08, 2020, 01:55:29 PM
I  don't know about other countries but I do know that when you get a series of Opinion Polls, from different companies, showing a significant movement in support for Independence, you can be sure that they have picked up on a change within the Scottish electorate. One Poll displaying such a result would be put down as an outlier,  several polls is a different kettle of fish.
There have been 12 Independence Polls so far this year and all have been positive. 2 did show No in the lead - but only by 1%. 2 resulted in level pegging and YES was in front in 8. Significantly the last 6 have had YES in the lead.
The usual Pollsters - Panelbase & YouGov - were joined in a recent poll by ComRes which also showed the gap in favour of YES.
The political parties also commission Polls for internal use and you can rest assured those are displaying the same message. Why else has Boris & Co started coming to Scotland? They are trying to raise the Union profile, extolling the positives(?) of being in the UK. The only thing is that they fly in, do a few stops at local factores etc but, the important factor, is that they don't meet any of the pubic.

Even in England.  The incompetence of this bunch of despotic morons and zealots who call themselves a Conservative government.   Has now passed its sell by date.  It has taken time.  But now realise the buffoonery of Boris is for real.  I can now no longer support Conservatives north or south of the border. Johnston and the now departed  Carlaw. Were the final straw.

morayloon

Quote from: Nick on September 08, 2020, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: morayloon on September 08, 2020, 02:06:37 PMThe difficulty with what you are saying is that we had an election in December and the SNP romped home.

The SNP got 45% share of the vote, so using your logic you will get 45% in another referendum as 55% voted for parties not campaigning on leave.
The SNP gained a bigger share of the Scottish vote than the Tories did in the UK. Polls have shown that about 30% of Labour voters support Independence so your simple equation does not hold water. You have also to factor in Green support. It is also simplistic since the polls are showing Independence in the 53% - 55% range. The Guardian reported a 56% figure which was based on porivate polls for the Tories  https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/07/boris-johnson-deal-eu-britain-talks

Thomas

Quote"Ministers are increasingly nervous that a Scottish breakaway is on the cards (the cabinet was recently briefed that the latest opinion polls show 56% of Scots would vote for independence, and 44% to stay in the UK)."

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/07/boris-johnson-deal-eu-britain-talks

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srb7677

Quote from: Nick on September 08, 2020, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: morayloon on September 08, 2020, 02:06:37 PMThe difficulty with what you are saying is that we had an election in December and the SNP romped home.

The SNP got 45% share of the vote, so using your logic you will get 45% in another referendum as 55% voted for parties not campaigning on leave.
If the polls are correct then the inference is clear. Even some of those not voting SNP want independence.
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Nick

Quote from: srb7677 on September 08, 2020, 02:35:57 PMYou are clearly struggling to recognise the difference between a poll and a vote.

Thank you for your concern, you'll be the first to be informed if I'm struggling with anything.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.