Covid 19 cures heart disease

[BeElBeeBub]

Here is a link from the CDC raw data.

It shows the expected deaths per week for the previous 3 years along side the observed deaths.

https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12162020/WeeklyExcessDeaths?:embed=y&:jsdebug=y&:toolbar=n&:tab

The orange line represents the level above which are considered "excess deaths".

So a given week may expect 60k deaths but anything up to 64k would be considered "normal".

As you can see the actual death rate has been considerably above the expected upper limit (by well over 15%) for most of the year.

The idea (often out forward) that the CV deaths are just other deaths "rebranded" is 100% pure BS.

The UK shows a similar pattern with about 10% (60k) more deaths than expected so far

[HDQQ]

In the UK there's been the statistics showing excess deaths over and above the annual average. During the first wave of covid-19 in the spring there was a huge spike in excess deaths, most of which were recorded as being from covid-19. After the lockdown excess deaths fell to slightly below average, in line with the idea that some people who died from covid-19 were going to die very soon from something else anyway. But that only appears to be small proportion. Now we're seeing excess deaths rising above average again in the second wave.

This graph tracks the number of excess deaths.   https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131428/excess-deaths-in-england-and-wales/

How statistics are compiled can be flexible too.  If someone with a heart condition dies of a heart attack while being treated in hospital for covid-19, do they count as a covid-19 death?  In UK the answer is usually 'yes', I believe.

[Barry]

I think you're right Borchester. They haven't actually refuted the assertions made in her report, they have just placed a different slant on it, something that is very prevalent in these days of misinformation.

[Borchester]

Did you see that page was an archived copy which has been rescinded for reasons given here:
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

Briand was quoted in the article as saying, "All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers." This claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the CDC, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to COVID-19. Additionally, Briand presented data of total U.S. deaths in comparison to COVID-19-related deaths as a proportion percentage, which trivializes the repercussions of the pandemic. This evidence does not disprove the severity of COVID-19; an increase in excess deaths is not represented in these proportionalities because they are offered as percentages, not raw numbers.

Briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as COVID-19-related deaths. However, COVID-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus.

I read it Barry. I also read ..

"The News-Letter is an editorially and financially independent, student-run publication"

I will admit to to a no doubt unjustified bias against any student publication other than Friday Night Is Half Price Beer Night.

Ms Briand's article could have done with tightening up. The response from the News-Letter did not seem to go much beyond we are right, she is wrong so yah boo sucks. A few figures from both parties would have helped clarify matters

[Barry]

Did you see that page was an archived copy which has been rescinded for reasons given here:
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

Briand was quoted in the article as saying, "All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers." This claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the CDC, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to COVID-19. Additionally, Briand presented data of total U.S. deaths in comparison to COVID-19-related deaths as a proportion percentage, which trivializes the repercussions of the pandemic. This evidence does not disprove the severity of COVID-19; an increase in excess deaths is not represented in these proportionalities because they are offered as percentages, not raw numbers.

Briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as COVID-19-related deaths. However, COVID-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus.

[Borchester]

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19 


or something like that.

According to this report,the number of deaths attributed to Covid 19 has risen, but the number due to heart disease and pneumonia has fallen with the result being that overall fatalities in the US due to most anything has remained static.