Misinformation on social media is turning BAME groups against the vaccine.

Started by Thomas, February 12, 2021, 10:54:11 AM

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Scott777

Why does it need to be infectious?  If the government allows fast food shops, smoking, drinking and air pollution, then they clearly don't care about you enough to protect you from Covid.  And why are they not constantly advising you to get your vitamins and sunshine?  It's nothing to do with protection.
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Quote from: Scott777 on February 13, 2021, 10:07:17 AM
If the government said everyone had to have a tracking device on their ankle, or we all lock down, would that justify the device?  It's irrelevant that the government want you to have it.  I think you first need to justify the vaccines.  So why should all the under 65s have it?  What are the odds of dying from the lurgy in that age group?  Probably less than dying of cancer, and yet smoking and eating junk food and pollution are not all banned!!  The vaccines are not to protect you, they are for money and control over you.  We already know there are new strains, so you can bet your ass they won't we setting you free just because you want to be free and you got the vaccine.

If you smoke, eat junk food or binge drink, it's not infectious like Covid-19. That's not to say that these other things don't affect other people. There is passive smoking and drunk people are more likely to harm others. But chain smoking won't infect others to become chain smokers and stuffing yourself with junk food won't make other people obese.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 on February 14, 2021, 12:37:33 PM
I'm sure free money is also a factor, but that was also true during the summer protests, so maybe the protests will be much bigger.

Or maybe , hopefully ,God willing and blessed is the Ori there will be no need for them ,whatever your view on why they were needed (or not) in the first place .

Scott777

Quote from: Streetwalker on February 14, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
The protests are quiet not because its winter but because most of us are still being paid  a wage for staying indoors . We are actually saving during lockdown .  When the money stops the lockdown will end which at the moment is the end of March .
I'm sure free money is also a factor, but that was also true during the summer protests, so maybe the protests will be much bigger.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 on February 14, 2021, 10:23:37 AM
One advantage we have is that you can wake up the sheep, but the people awake cannot go back to sleep once they understand the truth, so it's a one way system.  Many people have woken up since last summer.  The more the government pushes, the more people will awake and resist.  If they say LOCKDOWN even after they had their double dose, more people will start to ask questions.  The protests are just quiet because of winter.  There is hope, and I say: never surrender.

The protests are quiet not because its winter but because most of us are still being paid  a wage for staying indoors . We are actually saving during lockdown .  When the money stops the lockdown will end which at the moment is the end of March .

Tuesday April 6th seems like the day everyone goes back to work providing the uptake on the vaccine and the drop in infections is as expected . 

Scott777

Quote from: Thomas on February 14, 2021, 09:42:20 AM
Well we have been in lockdown on and off now for a year , and rather than mass uprisings and dissent , all i see is a largely cowed popualtion in terror of catching the virus.

My neighbour hasnt been out the house barely for 12 mnths , and wont even let his adult children and grandchildren in the house hes that terrified.

You wont get consensus on this covid 19 scott , you can see the mass difference of opinion on a small political forum like this never mind across our differeing countries.

Look at how bitter some people are over it all......forum member hyper quack quack was on here the other day actually gloating about a man dying in america through not wearing a mask.

Thats the type of  self righteous arsehole that lives among us.
One advantage we have is that you can wake up the sheep, but the people awake cannot go back to sleep once they understand the truth, so it's a one way system.  Many people have woken up since last summer.  The more the government pushes, the more people will awake and resist.  If they say LOCKDOWN even after they had their double dose, more people will start to ask questions.  The protests are just quiet because of winter.  There is hope, and I say: never surrender.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Thomas

Quote from: Scott777 on February 14, 2021, 09:35:28 AM
No worries, I didn't know your position.  But none the less, saying that it's a no win situation is to concede to tyranny, and I'm sure that's the tip of the iceberg.  Once people like Bill Gates, George Soros, Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos have technological control over the whole world, you can expect scenes that have never been seen in human history.  I don't think the vaccines are literally to kill people, but they are for control, and if they get their end goal, we are as good as dead.  The solution is to wake up more people to what's going on.  You know it only takes half the population to say no to vaccines, no to lockdown, and it ends.  Already a third said they don't want the vaccine.

Well we have been in lockdown on and off now for a year , and rather than mass uprisings and dissent , all i see is a largely cowed popualtion in terror of catching the virus.

My neighbour hasnt been out the house barely for 12 mnths , and wont even let his adult children and grandchildren in the house hes that terrified.

You wont get consensus on this covid 19 scott , you can see the mass difference of opinion on a small political forum like this never mind across our differeing countries.

Look at how bitter some people are over it all......forum member hyper quack quack was on here the other day actually gloating about a man dying in america through not wearing a mask.

Thats the type of  self righteous arsehole that lives among us.
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Scott777

Quote from: Thomas on February 14, 2021, 09:20:58 AM
Im not telling anyone anything  , excpet to say to sheep what i think might happen.

You need to do what you think is in yours , and your familys best interestes , and i will do the same scott.
No worries, I didn't know your position.  But none the less, saying that it's a no win situation is to concede to tyranny, and I'm sure that's the tip of the iceberg.  Once people like Bill Gates, George Soros, Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos have technological control over the whole world, you can expect scenes that have never been seen in human history.  I don't think the vaccines are literally to kill people, but they are for control, and if they get their end goal, we are as good as dead.  The solution is to wake up more people to what's going on.  You know it only takes half the population to say no to vaccines, no to lockdown, and it ends.  Already a third said they don't want the vaccine.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Thomas

Quote from: Scott777 on February 14, 2021, 09:19:22 AM
It's just a pea-shooter.   ;)  But it seemed like you were saying we should go along with the vax just to appease the government.

Im not telling anyone anything  , excpet to say to sheep what i think might happen.

You need to do what you think is in yours , and your familys best interestes , and i will do the same scott.
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Scott777

Quote from: Thomas on February 13, 2021, 12:35:40 PM

Dont shoot the messenger scott.

Im merely posting a link to this story.
It's just a pea-shooter.   ;)  But it seemed like you were saying we should go along with the vax just to appease the government.  So really you are talking about other people, and the situation at large?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

johnofgwent

Quote from: Scott777 on February 13, 2021, 10:07:17 AM
If the government said everyone had to have a tracking device on their ankle, or we all lock down, would that justify the device?  It's irrelevant that the government want you to have it.  I think you first need to justify the vaccines.  So why should all the under 65s have it?  What are the odds of dying from the lurgy in that age group?  Probably less than dying of cancer, and yet smoking and eating junk food and pollution are not all banned!!  The vaccines are not to protect you, they are for money and control over you.  We already know there are new strains, so you can bet your ass they won't we setting you free just because you want to be free and you got the vaccine.


Except that a tracking device doesn't include a biological weapon


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Thomas

Quote from: Scott777 on February 13, 2021, 10:07:17 AM
If the government said everyone had to have a tracking device on their ankle, or we all lock down, would that justify the device?  It's irrelevant that the government want you to have it.  I think you first need to justify the vaccines.  So why should all the under 65s have it?  What are the odds of dying from the lurgy in that age group?  Probably less than dying of cancer, and yet smoking and eating junk food and pollution are not all banned!!  The vaccines are not to protect you, they are for money and control over you.  We already know there are new strains, so you can bet your ass they won't we setting you free just because you want to be free and you got the vaccine.

Hang on a minute scott , i think you have the wrong end of the stick here.

Im merely posting to sheep what i think will happen , not what i want to happen.

QuoteIt's irrelevant that the government want you to have it.

No it isnt irrelevant.

The point im trying to make is if governments want you to have the vaccine , they will find a way. The first thing that springs to mind is stopping you doing stuff , like going on holiday or whatever unless you can prove you have had the vaccine.

QuoteSo why should all the under 65s have it?

Thats a question i have been askng as well....do those who have already had the virus , or the young fit and healthy need the vaccine? Nothing about these questions have been mentioned.

Most of us want to get back to normal , as this is all getting a bit much now , and the simple point im trying but apparently failing to make is  , if taking the vaccine is the only way out of lockdown then most folk will have it.

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Thomas

Quote from: Scott777 on February 13, 2021, 09:59:27 AM
Misinformation or not, it's only fair to balance the mass of misinformation pumped out by the big media corporations.  They have repeatedly said the vaccines are safe, and that includes David Lammy (in response to the scepticism of black people).  And yet they have no business making that claim, which borders of criminal, given that the clinical trials of the Pfizer one are only 30% complete, and it is experimental (as per my post).


Dont shoot the messenger scott.

Im merely posting a link to this story.
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Scott777

Quote from: Thomas on February 12, 2021, 11:46:28 AM

The way i see it sheep , is the more that dont have this vaccine , the longer they are going to have an excuse to lock us all down.

So it is a no win situation.
If the government said everyone had to have a tracking device on their ankle, or we all lock down, would that justify the device?  It's irrelevant that the government want you to have it.  I think you first need to justify the vaccines.  So why should all the under 65s have it?  What are the odds of dying from the lurgy in that age group?  Probably less than dying of cancer, and yet smoking and eating junk food and pollution are not all banned!!  The vaccines are not to protect you, they are for money and control over you.  We already know there are new strains, so you can bet your ass they won't we setting you free just because you want to be free and you got the vaccine.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: Thomas on February 12, 2021, 10:54:11 AM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2021/02/06/croydon-became-hotbed-vaccine-misinformation/
Misinformation or not, it's only fair to balance the mass of misinformation pumped out by the big media corporations.  They have repeatedly said the vaccines are safe, and that includes David Lammy (in response to the scepticism of black people).  And yet they have no business making that claim, which borders of criminal, given that the clinical trials of the Pfizer one are only 30% complete, and it is experimental (as per my post).
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.