Zealot Hypocrisy

[Barry]

It's OK for Khan to conflate Holocaust denial and alleged abuse of their alleged prophet - IN FRANCE.
We, in the UK, do not make holocaust denial an offence, as B-4 has said.

What France need to do, is tell Khan that their laws are none of his business, or if they are his business, then so is the treatment of Christians in Pakistan, which is despicable.

I have no idea how anyone can abuse a dead alleged prophet. It is Sunni Muslims who have this thing about making images of the alleged prophet - does anyone even know what he looked like?

The recent debacle at a Yorkshire school over the showing of some graphics, tends to support the idea that there is a de facto enforcement of Sharia law in some areas of this country. Not, of course, through legal process, but by a very illegal process of threats, assaults and murder.

Everyone should be free to hate whatever they want to hate, believe whatever they want about the holocaust. It's only when thoughts are transmuted into unlawful actions that the Police may need to be involved.

Time is coming when we might need to decide which side we are on.

[B-4]

I didn't say anything about Holocaust denial.


I said we are not allowed to hate jews for their terrorism in the way we are allowed to hate Islamics for theirs ...

I was working on the assumption that Khan is comparing opinions about Mo, which seems to upset the overly sensitive Islamists, with Holocaust Denial.  The latter is a topic on its own, but there is a clear distinction in regards to that and religious mumbo jumbo.

You mentioned Zionism and Mohammed together in your previous post, which again has a clear distinction.  One is a so-called nationalist movement that deals with ethnicity, the other is some dude who spoke to the supernatural (apparently).

[Sheepy]

Here is an idea, stop importing the problems and they wouldn't arise, the woke will be furious, but then I guess we all thought we were woke once, until it dawned on us, we actually knew naff all.

[johnofgwent]

Technically this isn't true in the UK.  We don't have any laws against holocaust denial, and that it would now come under some sort of blanket hate crime (indirect).  Those people who were arrested for it in this country (by the MET) were most likely taken in by the EU arrest warrant, since it is illegal in the EU and the main European countries like Germany and France.  Also, the Holocaust is an event that happened less than a century ago.  What Khan is suggesting is nothing more than to force insecure Islamist bigotry, which is obviously how he maintains power in his neck of the woods.

As far as I know you are free to mock the contents of the Torah or laugh at Judaism.  However, for some peculiar reason we have this idea that there can be Atheist Jews, which does stir up questions as to what being Jewish actually means these days, especially in politics.

I didn't say anything about Holocaust denial.


I said we are not allowed to hate jews for their terrorism in the way we are allowed to hate Islamics for theirs ...

[B-4]

Technically this isn't true in the UK.  We don't have any laws against holocaust denial, and that it would now come under some sort of blanket hate crime (indirect).  Those people who were arrested for it in this country (by the MET) were most likely taken in by the EU arrest warrant, since it is illegal in the EU and the main European countries like Germany and France.  Also, the Holocaust is an event that happened less than a century ago.  What Khan is suggesting is nothing more than to force insecure Islamist bigotry, which is obviously how he maintains power in his neck of the woods.

As far as I know you are free to mock the contents of the Torah or laugh at Judaism.  However, for some peculiar reason we have this idea that there can be Atheist Jews, which does stir up questions as to what being Jewish actually means these days, especially in politics. 

[johnofgwent]

I thought I'd actively go to RT home page to see what they're up to, because Google is so crap. It's OK, I'm not Russian or a spy.

https://www.rt.com/news/521389-pakistan-imran-khan-muslims/

This is in a country that persecutes, murders and intimidates anyone with an opinion that isn't Muslim, and even then they keep each other in line.  The wording from Khan is highly disturbing and clearly totalitarian and anti-freedom.  The idea that mere words about some bloke that may have existed thousands of years ago should be outlawed just isn't western, and that this attack on the west should be considered an attack on western freedoms (what's left of it).

The weak minded feeble gits lack any actual faith and rely on religious bigotry as their politics.  I know western governments will bow to these people and that's become a real problem for western freedoms.

My freedom means more than Islamist zealotry, and find massacring western people into silence, which is what Islamists do, as the ultimate insult.

He has a point though.


We are not allowed by law to hate Jews although they blew up the King David Hotel in the name of Zionism.


We are however allowed to hate Islamics for blowing up various people in the name of Mohammed.

And you should see how the Bedouin get treated !

I guess the difference exists because we've had Jews at the heart of the British Parliament and on its front bench since Disraeli and that's why the Israeli Press went to town on the revelation the Labour Party had actually allowed a man not publicly kow towing to the Friends of Israel to be their leader....


Imagine how pissed they really are on discovering who Boris's great (great?) grandad was ...

[B-4]

I thought I'd actively go to RT home page to see what they're up to, because Google is so crap. It's OK, I'm not Russian or a spy.

https://www.rt.com/news/521389-pakistan-imran-khan-muslims/

This is in a country that persecutes, murders and intimidates anyone with an opinion that isn't Muslim, and even then they keep each other in line.  The wording from Khan is highly disturbing and clearly totalitarian and anti-freedom.  The idea that mere words about some bloke that may have existed thousands of years ago should be outlawed just isn't western, and that this attack on the west should be considered an attack on western freedoms (what's left of it).

The weak minded feeble gits lack any actual faith and rely on religious bigotry as their politics.  I know western governments will bow to these people and that's become a real problem for western freedoms.

My freedom means more than Islamist zealotry, and find massacring western people into silence, which is what Islamists do, as the ultimate insult.