Russian influence in NHS papers leak?

[Churchill]

::  :hattip

[Borchester]

Your subtle innuendoes go right over my head,  ::  ::

 

Possibly I should have made my feelings clearer, but it is the season of goodwhile so...  

[Churchill]

Your subtle innuendoes go right over my head,  ::  ::

[Borchester]

Fvck the NHS. The country's most fashionable cesspit of moral and financial incompetence has been going for 70 years, gobbles up one pound in six of our taxes, employs nearly two million people and still hasn't gotten things right.



Until I see a photo of Barry in surgical greens with snow on his boots I am not going to believe any stories about Russian influence in the NHS. But if the Russians or Yanks or anybody else is dumb enough to buy the nation's darling then I wish them well and can only hope they pay cash.

[Churchill]

Even if the Russians North Koreans or the Chinese were not involved the Report Corbyn waved about like Chamberlain did crowing about peace in our time in the 30's the fact remains it was written following a serious of talks by officials with US officials in relation to Trade deals covering several different aspects of trades in which the NHS was only mentioned four times.



There have been no serious formal negotiations even started yet about any sort of trade deal let alone the NHS which is off limits full stop , the usual Corbyn is scaremongering as Blair Labours Warmonger did back in 97 about the NHS.

[Major Sinic]

Hillarious that this weak speculation is taken seriously while the contents of the document aren't.

Perhaps that is because the Russians have form in meddling in other countries business up to and including murder on foreign soil.



On the other hand there is absolutely no evidence that the UK under the security of a Tory government is, has or or is even remotely willing to discuss or negotiate with the USA over the NHS.



It is significant I think that this constructed and over dramatic lie was launched by Labour the day following Andrew Neils surgical humiliation of Corbyn and in particular his ineffectual leadership regarding Labour's institutional anti-semitism, his refusal to confirm support for the security of the nation, his lack of knowledge and understanding over the UK's taxation system and Labour's proposed changes resulting in ta increases for the lowest earning taxpayers.



It was clearly a cynical and dishonest ploy by Marxist Labour to detract the debate from some of the clearest evidence yet that Corbyn and his Marxist party are not, and never will be fit for government.

[papasmurf]

Smurf is not worth wasting thought, consideration or comment on.

People like you are part of the problem, not the solution.

[Churchill]

I have spent the majority of my working life dealing with people I quite like people but I could not eat a whole one, I understand him not a problem

[Major Sinic]

I am thank for your support , I may have to go and lie down in a dark room until I settle down ::

Smurf is not worth wasting thought, consideration or comment on. His posts taken as a whole are the most hypocritical, bigoted and unreasoned on the forum. The posts which express views supported with evidence and facts but which don't agree with smurf's bizarre view of the world are dismissed as 'propaganda and lies'. His own posts demonstrate a tenuous grip on reason and logic and his obsessive hatred of all and every Tory has become a poor and risible joke. Only rarely does he respond to demands for evidence for his  irrational views and when he does, it does not of course provide either the evidence or the support promised.  No one derails posts and takes them off topic like smurf does. To the blessed relief of many he received a permanent ban, following dozens of previous bans but this being a new site he someone crept back in with a different name. Rather like meat which is off he is best ignored and discarded.



Back to topic there is no evidence that the NHS will be included in any negotiated trade agreement with the USA. The Leaders of each country have categorically confirmed this. Corbyn and Labour implemented a massive and entirely dishonest lie and slur against the Conservative government and its current Prime Minister, using theatrics and the most tenuous and easily dismissed constructed evidence. There is now growing concern that it was supplied indirectly to Labour by Russian subversive activity.

[Churchill]

I am thank for your support , I may have to go and lie down in a dark room until I settle down ::

[papasmurf]

You are a Legend in your own mind  ::

Laugh away:-



https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/81146/margaret-thatcher-secretly-entertained-nhs">https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... tained-nhs">https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/81146/margaret-thatcher-secretly-entertained-nhs



Even the Daily Heil ran with it when the cabinet papers became public domain:-



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254185/Thatchers-secret-plot-dismantle-welfare-state-privatise-NHS-revealed.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ealed.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254185/Thatchers-secret-plot-dismantle-welfare-state-privatise-NHS-revealed.html

[Churchill]

The last batch of released from secrecy cabinet meeting minutes from the Thatcher era are somewhat  more than according to me.

You are a Legend in your own mind  ::

[papasmurf]

According to you  :roll:

The last batch of released from secrecy cabinet meeting minutes from the Thatcher era are somewhat  more than according to me.

[Churchill]

So that is blatant lies from the Tories.

According to you  :roll:

[papasmurf]

Allegedly the Tory Manifesto states categorically that the NHS is not for sale full stop

So that is blatant lies from the Tories.