Beware the liar Starmer

[Nick]

There's no shortage — it's just that people want to buy the stuff and there's not enough in stock to supply them. People should just resist the urge to buy and come back in a few days when there'll be more in stock and and freely available because the interruption to usual supply and restocking (that's caused this shortage around much of the country) will be over.

But meanwhile, get out and walk. There is no shortage!!!


Military drivers will be deployed to deliver fuel to forecourts from Monday as long queues for petrol continued to cause gridlock this week in parts of the country.  Almost 200 military personnel - including 100 drivers - have been undertaking training at haulier sites and will start deliveries to help relieve the situation at petrol stations, which the government insists is stabilising.  Meanwhile, chancellor Rishi Sunak has told the Daily Mail that shortages of goods could continue until Christmas as the problems in supply chains are global.  "These shortages are very real. We're seeing real disruptions in supply chains in different sectors, not just here but around the world," Mr Sunak warned.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/fuel-crisis-petrol-shortage-latest-b1931080.html

I'm working up in the North East and just filled up. No queue and they have fuel, it's only the numpties in the SE that are having big problems by the look of it. The JIT system can't cope with people increasing their habits by 5 times.
So no, there is no fuel shortage, just an abundance of idiots.

[Thomas]

[Thomas]

Is petrol in danger of running out?

No - oil companies have stressed there is plenty of fuel available.

They say that the shortage is being caused by "temporary spikes in customer demand" - or as PRA chairman Brian Madderson put it, "panic buying, pure and simple".

The government has claimed media coverage has inflamed the situation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-58709456


100 000 shortage of drivers in the uk , which as we discussed driver shortages is a worldwide issue , even in america to a lesser or greater degree.

This is a long term problem , gradually increasing , and the road hauliers have said only 15 % of that 100 000 are brexit/covid related.

On top of that , the normal amount of drivers that should have been trained in normal circumstances hasnt happened due to covid restrictions and lockdowns.

so it seems to be a perfect storm of events which rejoiners like patman are desperate to weaponise.

[Thomas]

As well as Labour being unelectable, people are forgetting the upcoming boundary changes which suit the Tories also.

Not really nick ,i think we are all used to labour and tory rehashing boundaires to suit their own political fortunes each time they are in power.

Short term , sure its good politics for whichever party is stitching up the system , long term , its causing irrepareable damage.

[Thomas]

The psychology of panic buying: Why Brits are scrambling for gasoline

    Most of the blame for the chaos lies with "anxiety, anxiety, anxiety," according to Cathrine Jansson-Boyd, associate professor in consumer psychology at the U.K.'s Anglia Ruskin University.
    She added that the "fear of missing out effect" kicks in when people see reports and images of others lining up for gasoline.
    Dominik Piehlmaier, a lecturer in marketing at the University of Sussex's Business School, told CNBC that people go to gas stations and wait for hours just because they're worried.


According to the British government, the U.K. has a strong supply of gasoline. The country's environment minister, George Eustice, told the BBC Monday that the only reason gas stations were running out of fuel was because of people who were buying gas when they didn't need it.

In fact, most of the blame for the chaos lies with "anxiety, anxiety, anxiety," according to Cathrine Jansson-Boyd, associate professor in consumer psychology at the U.K.'s Anglia Ruskin University.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/petrol-crisis-why-brits-are-panic-buying-gasoline.html

The article makes quite clear there is no shortage of fuel , and the strain on logistics due to lack of drivers is a long term issue .

Still why let facts get in the way of a good brexit bashing bleat.?


"Frankly, the country's not geared up to have people buy five times as much fuel as they do in a given week, that's just not how the supply chain works. It's very difficult to repair it to meet that demand within a very short period of time," Joe Armitage, lead analyst for U.K. politics at Global Counsel, told CNBC's "Squawk Box Europe" on Tuesday.

[Thomas]

There's no shortage — it's just that people want to buy the stuff and there's not enough in stock to supply them. People should just resist the urge to buy and come back in a few days when there'll be more in stock and and freely available because the interruption to usual supply and restocking (that's caused this shortage around much of the country) will be over.

you are another one like pappysmurf and quack quack on this forum who inhabits an alterior universe from the rest of us  mere mortals.

Its generally why you are always wrong on pretty much most subjects , and tend to get your political crystal ball gazing wrong at every turn , which then reduces you to merely trolling people on this forum with petulant snide remarks and nothing more .

I think pretty much everyone everywhere can see through the desperate attempt to spin people panic buying at petrol stations ,( where we are hearing stories of idiots queing for 45 minutes to top up two quids worth of diesel to keep the tank full , or filling cola bottles with the stuff) as normal behaviour that is being stopped by lack of normal supply , really is laughable.

There is no shortage of fuel.

I tell you pat , if this is the best you rejoiners can come up with to get us all backing wet blanket keir and his EU team into ten downing street  , yet more desperate doommongering and project fear hysteria , less than a feckin year after remainers suffered yet another massive kicking at the polls , then you really are deluded.

Why dont you pour yourself a nice glass of wine and put your slippers on and calm down dear.?

[patman post]

 There's no shortage — it's just that people want to buy the stuff and there's not enough in stock to supply them. People should just resist the urge to buy and come back in a few days when there'll be more in stock and and freely available because the interruption to usual supply and restocking (that's caused this shortage around much of the country) will be over.

But meanwhile, get out and walk. There is no shortage!!!


Military drivers will be deployed to deliver fuel to forecourts from Monday as long queues for petrol continued to cause gridlock this week in parts of the country.  Almost 200 military personnel - including 100 drivers - have been undertaking training at haulier sites and will start deliveries to help relieve the situation at petrol stations, which the government insists is stabilising.  Meanwhile, chancellor Rishi Sunak has told the Daily Mail that shortages of goods could continue until Christmas as the problems in supply chains are global.  "These shortages are very real. We're seeing real disruptions in supply chains in different sectors, not just here but around the world," Mr Sunak warned.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/fuel-crisis-petrol-shortage-latest-b1931080.html

[Nick]

starmer needs 124 seats to get a slight majority at the next election , where are they going to come from?

All patman is interested in is brexit being reversed , and is pinning his hope on that political mastermind keir starmer to do it.

How we laughed sheepwash.

As well as Labour being unelectable, people are forgetting the upcoming boundary changes which suit the Tories also.

[Nick]

Fuel shortages, energy price rises in time for winter, looming unemployment, and warnings of shortages by supermarket bosses seems less like moving on than reverting back to austerity.

There is no fuel shortage, we're people shouting bog  roll shortage last year? No, they were shouting you're an idiot for buying 5 times more than you need. As for unemployment, there are more jobs than people, knock £20 off their benefits, they'll soon pick up the slack.

[Thomas]

[Thomas]

They ain't it is pure fantasy; the Tories are lunch they just don't know it. Which in fairness to them, they just never know it.

Starmer has labour third in scotland , and 8 points behind the tories in uk polls. The tories we are told are the yookays worst post war government , yet starmers labour can't get ahead of them .

All im hearing is the labour parties banal unconvincing messages and that for people who want real change , starmer wont deliver it , and labour are merely trying to serve up the status quo minorities like pat want.

Even a child could tell you there is something fundamentally wrong with the direction of starmers blairite labour.

[Sheepy]

starmer needs 124 seats to get a slight majority at the next election

They ain't it is pure fantasy; the Tories are lunch they just don't know it. Which in fairness to them, they just never know it.

[Thomas]

Many are also picking up on starmers and labours rhetoric about brexit and the worker shortage ?

Labours answer is to disrespect the wil of the people in 2016 ( again), rejoin the eu , and specifically they are saying they would remedy the worker shortage with more mass uncontrolled immigration , while the tories are saying they are listening to the people , no mass immigration , and that employers have to raise pay and invest more in automation.

Its as if a certain party are not listening to what people are saying. Feck me im shocked.

Johnson and the tories look like having an open goal with labour on this one.

[Thomas]

starmer said in his speech corbyn was to blame for labours disasterous result in 2019 ( he wasnt , starmers brexit policy was) and that corbyn delivered the worst  result since 1935.....



Yep i can see what pat and keir starmer are saying.

Those blairites really know what they are doing .

[Thomas]

Anybody would think it was the Conservative conference and it was time to gather the troops. they won't win another election because they will never come up with enough votes whatever you want the party faithful thinking, so you had better find a better stick than Labour.

starmer needs 124 seats to get a slight majority at the next election , where are they going to come from?

All patman is interested in is brexit being reversed , and is pinning his hope on that political mastermind keir starmer to do it.

How we laughed sheepwash.