1000 in a day?

[Borchester]

Streetwalker , neither labour or conservative as im sure you agree have the slightest interest in stopping mass immigration. I dont think there are any pretending anymore we are even talking about "refugees".

Let me be clear as well , this isnt a party political point. Sturgeon and the snp , if they were ever in  a position of being the government of the uk and prime minister , would be exactly the same. All the major western world political parties follow the same "managed migration " policy , some just "manage migration " far less than others.

You cannot have the hordes of the third world running around the planet like a swarm of locusts stripping rich countries bare before moving onto the next , but thats where we are.

The uk government , as they are in control of all our borders , have a duty to us all to stop this , and make the uk far less appealing .

In my opinion , eventually you are going to see much of europe getting increasingly angrier about the situation. Even macron in France is starting to appeal to french sensibilities over the migration issue and play the nationalist card.

Western europe and the uk countries are starting to have had enough.

I see the by effect of mass immigration , the islamic attack in the soviet socialist republic of scouse on sunday is being played down as much as possible . Its not going away nor are the people laying down and accepting it.

The problem is Tommy, there is not really a lot you can do about it anyway. You can set up barb wire fencing from the North Sea to the Bay of Biscay and with Priti Patel manning the maxim guns at ten yard intervals and the immigrants will still get through. We are rich and they are poor and there is no way they are going to starve on the other side on the other side of the world when Brits are eating three times a day.

A couple of months ago a chap turned up at my door. He came from a part of China that not even his mates or Google had ever heard of, but he fixed my guttering a treat at a very good price. So while I see myself as big a bigot as the next man, I am not going to grass him up anytime soon.

[Sampanviking]

Trouble is Thomas is by the time we have got angrier enough about it , ridden the backlash from the liberal left and decided to install governments prepared to do something about it we will all be fecked .

Some would say that time past some time ago

Well this is what you get when you have a system that sounds great in theory and principle but which bombs repeated in practice as soon as it comes into contact with reality.
You tell the level of distress in the system purely by the ever rising level of Ideological hyperbole and Hysteria from those supposed to be leading us!

[Streetwalker]

Streetwalker , neither labour or conservative as im sure you agree have the slightest interest in stopping mass immigration. I dont think there are any pretending anymore we are even talking about "refugees".

Let me be clear as well , this isnt a party political point. Sturgeon and the snp , if they were ever in  a position of being the government of the uk and prime minister , would be exactly the same. All the major western world political parties follow the same "managed migration " policy , some just "manage migration " far less than others.

You cannot have the hordes of the third world running around the planet like a swarm of locusts stripping rich countries bare before moving onto the next , but thats where we are.

The uk government , as they are in control of all our borders , have a duty to us all to stop this , and make the uk far less appealing .

In my opinion , eventually you are going to see much of europe getting increasingly angrier about the situation. Even macron in France is starting to appeal to french sensibilities over the migration issue and play the nationalist card.

Western europe and the uk countries are starting to have had enough.

I see the by effect of mass immigration , the islamic attack in the soviet socialist republic of scouse on sunday is being played down as much as possible . Its not going away nor are the people laying down and accepting it.

Trouble is Thomas is by the time we have got angrier enough about it , ridden the backlash from the liberal left and decided to install governments prepared to do something about it we will all be fecked . 

Some would say that time past some time ago 

[Thomas]

For all the talk I just can't see any action any time soon . Just watching three guys in an inflatable canoe mid Channel waiting to be picked up . They wont make it to the UK in it that's for sure . The news channel boat pulls along side and asks if they are Ok and calls for the coastguard is whats repeated all day long .

Its an unsustainable situation and one that will only end when it is made clear that people crossing the channel get nothing but a ticket home 

Streetwalker , neither labour or conservative as im sure you agree have the slightest interest in stopping mass immigration. I dont think there are any pretending anymore we are even talking about "refugees".

Let me be clear as well , this isnt a party political point. Sturgeon and the snp , if they were ever in  a position of being the government of the uk and prime minister , would be exactly the same. All the major western world political parties follow the same "managed migration " policy , some just "manage migration " far less than others.

You cannot have the hordes of the third world running around the planet like a swarm of locusts stripping rich countries bare before moving onto the next , but thats where we are.

The uk government , as they are in control of all our borders , have a duty to us all to stop this , and make the uk far less appealing .

In my opinion , eventually you are going to see much of europe getting increasingly angrier about the situation. Even macron in France is starting to appeal to french sensibilities over the migration issue and play the nationalist card.

Western europe and the uk countries are starting to have had enough.

I see the by effect of mass immigration , the islamic attack in the soviet socialist republic of scouse on sunday is being played down as much as possible . Its not going away nor are the people laying down and accepting it.

[Streetwalker]

Eventually one way or the other  , a westmisnter government is going to have to confront the problems mass immigration is causing .

For all the talk I just can't see any action any time soon . Just watching three guys in an inflatable canoe mid Channel waiting to be picked up . They wont make it to the UK in it that's for sure . The news channel boat pulls along side and asks if they are Ok and calls for the coastguard is whats repeated all day long .

Its an unsustainable situation and one that will only end when it is made clear that people crossing the channel get nothing but a ticket home   

[Thomas]

George Galloway


@georgegalloway


Let me get this right: we have deployed British troops to the Polish border where yet no migrant or refugee has crossed from Belarus. While our own borders are being breached thousands of times a week without let or hinderance. I wonder what that can be about?

[Thomas]

As you know, Thomas, if you listen to the left they are all doctors, and other useful members of society, whilst the right reckon they are all terrorist sleepers and sympathisers. If they were the former, the EU countries would have snapped them up on the way through.
Are they all the latter? Of course not, but they are mainly young fit men who are exploiting England for the soft stance it practically shows on immigration. Meanwhile Priti mithers on and on about why she can't do her job being hamstringed by this that or the other.
They have a nearly 80 seat majority, they have no excuses.

The conservatives stood on a platform in every recent election on dealing with immigration into the uk and have spectacularly failed every year since elected under cameron.

There are minority tory views like borkies who think you should let them in to become the next generation of uber drivers , whilst the vast majority who live outside that london shithole with its 42 % foreign born population think otherwise.

Clearly farage is correct in saying johnson and much of his party have no interest in dealing with immigration , just passing the buck onto macron or putin or any other favourable candidate.

I say again , england  , which makes up forty per cent of the land of these islands but holds 80 % of the population , could fit inside france five times over but has a similar population.

Eventually one way or the other  , a westmisnter government is going to have to confront the problems mass immigration is causing .

[Barry]

Why?

Are you suggesting France clears up and pays for englands mess?

The whole of europe is playing pass the parcel with these migrants , who for various reasons are all headed for your country.

If your hopeless government and its clown of a prime minisnter can't be bothered dealing with immigration  , why should anyone else?

People like farage are regualrly pointing out johnson doesnt give a shit , and yet barely any of the public will blame him or patel for the mess in the channel.

At the first hint of blame its the fault of the french , russians or eu , england goes into meltdown. I can't understand the sheer inability of people in england to see where the problem lays.

As you know, Thomas, if you listen to the left they are all doctors, and other useful members of society, whilst the right reckon they are all terrorist sleepers and sympathisers. If they were the former, the EU countries would have snapped them up on the way through.
Are they all the latter? Of course not, but they are mainly young fit men who are exploiting England for the soft stance it practically shows on immigration. Meanwhile Priti mithers on and on about why she can't do her job being hamstringed by this that or the other.
They have a nearly 80 seat majority, they have no excuses.

[Thomas]

Those flights could also be taking them home, but never will.

Why?

Are you suggesting France clears up and pays for englands mess?

The whole of europe is playing pass the parcel with these migrants , who for various reasons are all headed for your country.

If your hopeless government and its clown of a prime minisnter cant be bothered dealing with immigration  , why should anyone else?

People like farage are regualrly pointing out johnson doesnt give a shit , and yet barely any of the public will blame him or patel for the mess in the channel.

At the first hint of blame its the fault of the french , russians or eu , england goes into meltdown. I cant understand the sheer inability of people in england to see where the problem lays.

[Thomas]

Clearly Macron is trying to threatening the security of the UK by weaponising Migrants on our southern border.
I also have no doubt that if you check where these migrants come from, that Air France will have regular flights to those countries capable of bringing them all in!

[papasmurf]

Those flights could also be taking them home, but never will.

The last flight left with only four people on it:-

https://news.sky.com/story/deportation-flight-to-jamaica-leaves-with-four-criminals-on-board-after-33-get-last-minute-legal-reprieve-12465642

[Thomas]

I think we should start being rather less tolerant. Parking a few of our naval vessels a few hundred yards off our NATO neighbours shores and running RIBS up and down the coast would be a useful way to spend the money we currently hand the French to do fu*k all would be a start. And perhaps we should drag the boats back to shore and burn them. After we invite the occupants to return to French soil of course.

John stop blaming the french for your governments inability to control your own borders.

We have talked about this many times over recent years. I remember having to lecture one of our colonial cousins in canada , forum member "groo" on the very subject a few years back .

I have went through dover calais many a time over the years , and the idea the french do nothing is laughable for any one acquainted with the area . You are speaking from ignorance and newspaper propaganda.

Twenty foot barbed wire fences , armed police sometime military patrolling , mass security checks and much more including the french offering a general amnesty to all migrants at various camps.

The french tell you time and again , the migrants dont want to stay in france , they want to come to your country where they are told the british government offer them eveything for free and welcome them.

Where is your anger at johnson and patels failure to control your borders?

If you made the uk less attractable to the worlds migrants instead of putting the word out about streets paved with gold and everything for free ,especially if they have a health ailment , come and use our free at the point of use health systems , you might stop the steady flow into your country.

[Barry]

I also have no doubt that if you check where these migrants come from, that Air France will have regular flights to those countries capable of bringing them all in!

Those flights could also be taking them home, but never will.
England have flights to take them home but shyster lawyers stopping them going. We are our own worst enemies

[papasmurf]

Clearly Macron is trying to threatening the security of the UK by weaponising Migrants on our southern border.

The British channel border is effectively unpoliced and unpatrolled. It is is a national scandal.

[Sampanviking]

Clearly Macron is trying to threatening the security of the UK by weaponising Migrants on our southern border.
I also have no doubt that if you check where these migrants come from, that Air France will have regular flights to those countries capable of bringing them all in!