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Started by T00ts, February 01, 2022, 01:47:26 PM

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srb7677

Quote from: Barry on February 10, 2022, 10:55:08 AM
You're not getting obsessed with Scott, are you? :-*
The vast majority of my posts don't mention him, all of his mention his one and only subject and nothing else.

I simply call him out on it in threads where this might be relevant.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Barry

Quote from: srb7677 on February 10, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
An obsession - someone who talks about nothing else at all - combined with a need to convince total strangers. I can immediately think of someone on this very forum.
You're not getting obsessed with Scott, are you? :-*
† The end is nigh †

srb7677

Quote from: T00ts on February 01, 2022, 02:03:13 PM
I confess I was surprised at how many calls he had describing real friends that they had had to dump because of the treatment they received from them due to disagreement with the conspiracy theories. Several mentioned the obsession that seemed to overtake them and how they went out of their way to persuade total strangers of their way of thinking.
An obsession - someone who talks about nothing else at all - combined with a need to convince total strangers. I can immediately think of someone on this very forum.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

johnofgwent

Quote from: Scott777 on February 01, 2022, 06:05:51 PM
Yes, I do recall all the misinformation about the virus jumping from animals to humans, which was spread by the MSM, and by supposed experts, while I tried to convince people it was engineered in a lab.  Spare a thought for anyone who may have suffered abuse, being called 'crazy conspiracy theorists', who may have lost jobs, that may have led to suicidal thoughts.  I'm used to it, but I'm sure they exist.

That misinformation as you put it started when they found the virus in the slobber of a dog. Nobody bothered to check to see if the cells were invaded. 
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T00ts

Quote from: srb7677 on February 01, 2022, 07:33:21 PM
I think you are on the recieving end here of what psychologists call projection. Because there are none so ignorant and obsessed as conpspiracy theorists, including anti-vaxxers.

After all, you post on a variety of subjects like many of us. The one who suggested you are obsessed only ever posts on one thing. So who is the obsessed one around here? lol
I understand that it is the usual MO. Hence the OP heading!

papasmurf

Quote from: Scott777 on February 01, 2022, 07:41:16 PM
So you rubbish the fact that the government deliberately increased the level of threat, 
I knew the level of threat, as did most of the clinically extremely vulnerable people I know weeks before Bojo tardily did the first lock down. 
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Scott777

Quote from: papasmurf on February 01, 2022, 07:36:13 PM
That is not the "nudge" unit, that is based in 10 Downing Street with no scientists involved.

As I said, it doesn't matter, and said what it is.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: T00ts on February 01, 2022, 07:27:16 PM
I am not ignorant as you so nobly describe it. Neither am I obsessed.

So you rubbish the fact that the government deliberately increased the level of threat, I post the actual document from the government's own website, part of the SAGE advisory group, from which the government took advice, and you chose to ignore the link.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

papasmurf

Quote from: Scott777 on February 01, 2022, 07:34:15 PM
It doesn't matter.  It's from the Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B), a subgroup of SAGE.  For the purpose of argument, it's what the government used.
That is not the "nudge" unit, that is based in 10 Downing Street with no scientists involved.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Scott777

Quote from: papasmurf on February 01, 2022, 07:17:08 PM
That is NOT from the "nudge" unit.  You will never find any detail or evidence about it even if you strapped Gove to a chair and applied high voltage electricity to his genitals.

It doesn't matter.  It's from the Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B), a subgroup of SAGE.  For the purpose of argument, it's what the government used.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

srb7677

Quote from: T00ts on February 01, 2022, 07:27:16 PM
I am not ignorant as you so nobly describe it. Neither am I obsessed.
I think you are on the recieving end here of what psychologists call projection. Because there are none so ignorant and obsessed as conpspiracy theorists, including anti-vaxxers.

After all, you post on a variety of subjects like many of us. The one who suggested you are obsessed only ever posts on one thing. So who is the obsessed one around here? lol

We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

T00ts

Quote from: Scott777 on February 01, 2022, 07:13:18 PM
Okie dokie toots, I won't insult your intelligence, but you insult yourself with ignorance.

"The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882722/25-options-for-increasing-adherence-to-social-distancing-measures-22032020.pdf
I am not ignorant as you so nobly describe it. Neither am I obsessed. 

papasmurf

Quote from: Scott777 on February 01, 2022, 07:13:18 PM
Okie dokie toots, I won't insult your intelligence, but you insult yourself with ignorance.

"The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882722/25-options-for-increasing-adherence-to-social-distancing-measures-22032020.pdf
That is NOT from the "nudge" unit.  You will never find any detail or evidence about it even if you strapped Gove to a chair and applied high voltage electricity to his genitals.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Scott777

Quote from: T00ts on February 01, 2022, 06:34:28 PM
Please don't insult my intelligence with rubbish like this.

Okie dokie toots, I won't insult your intelligence, but you insult yourself with ignorance.

"The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882722/25-options-for-increasing-adherence-to-social-distancing-measures-22032020.pdf
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

T00ts

Quote from: Scott777 on February 01, 2022, 06:27:04 PM
How about all the fear created by the government's nudge unit?  Is that a conspiracy theory, Toots?  Should we criticise them?

"The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent..."

So, effectively a campaign of fear to achieve a political end, which some would describe as terrorism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCU4APLlYzQ
Please don't insult my intelligence with rubbish like this.