Decisive Rees Mogg

[B0ycey]

You don't seem to have much experience of MPs and Westminster.

Every last one of them would sell their grandmother into slavery if the chief whip demanded it.

I don't actually care if he did, or did not, have the level of support claimed by those most likely to benefit from his success.

I think we all know what went on in here and why.

As I point out from time to time, I'm the guy whose claim to fame is that I actually got a select committee to recognise Blair had misled the house by lying to them. Not on the issue everyone tries to pin him in.

The utter venal hostility and spite that lying shitbag expounded was almost incredible. His poodle next door was almost as bad and DONT get me started on in Blind Pew who the Metropolitan Police found had exceeded his ministerial authority.

they're ALL a bunch of lying (language Timothy) rotten to the core I'm just amazed you don't see it.

I agree that are all liars John, but for some lying is more natural than others. 

[johnofgwent]

The 1922 weren't going to lie about who had hit a hundred votes John because that is a huge scandal that would finish the Tories once and for all. And it should be said only one did and he had a coronation.

As for Mogg, it was a deliberate lie and everyone knew it. He said it so when Johnson phoned an MP begging for their vote, they would think he had a shot with the members. I have no time for the Moggs of the world who think of themselves better than the ordinary man. I think of him as worse than Cummings and I find it amazing that of all the people Johnson seems to surround himself with, he found the two biggest snobby tossers on the British Isles to bathe him in anointed oil. So sure, I am glad he is on the back benches. And I will be glad for him to be ejected from his seat in two years time.

You don't seem to have much experience of MPs and Westminster.

Every last one of them would sell their grandmother into slavery if the chief whip demanded it.

I don't actually care if he did, or did not, have the level of support claimed by those most likely to benefit from his success.

I think we all know what went on in here and why.

As I point out from time to time, I'm the guy whose claim to fame is that I actually got a select committee to recognise Blair had misled the house by lying to them. Not on the issue everyone tries to pin him down on but a lie is a lie. He also lied to the House on the issue of the degree of his personal involvement with John De Chastellaine's back door negotiations with the IRA, claiming the glory after the fact when he was in fact sod all to do with them

The utter venal hostility and spite that lying shitbag expounded was almost incredible. His poodle next door was almost as bad and DONT get me started on in Blind Pew who the Metropolitan Police found had exceeded his ministerial authority.

they're ALL a bunch of lying (language Timothy) rotten to the core I'm just amazed you don't see it.

[B0ycey]

Burden of proof blah blah blah... Ok, you just claimed he didn't get the votes. Crack on then, let's see your proof.

You cannot prove a negative Nick. I am saying he didn't get the votes. What do you want me to show you? The votes he didn't get!

But in any case, we all know he didn't get the votes. Well everyone except you and T00ts.

[Nick]

[highlight]Burden of prove is always on the one who made the claim Nick.[/highlight] Have you heard the saying you can't prove a negative? [highlight]I am saying he never got the votes.[/highlight] You can't prove something that doesn't exist.

Burden of proof blah blah blah... Ok, you just claimed he didn't get the votes. Crack on then, let's see your proof. 

[B0ycey]

And you can prove that can you?

Burden of prove is always on the one who made the claim Nick. Have you heard the saying you can't prove a negative? I am saying he never got the votes. You can't prove something that doesn't exist.

[Nick]

The 1922 weren't going to lie about who had hit a hundred votes John because that is a huge scandal that would finish the Tories once and for all. And it should be said only one did and he had a coronation.

As for Mogg, it was a deliberate lie and everyone knew it. He said it so when Johnson phoned an MP begging for their vote, they would think he had a shot with the members. I have no time for the Moggs of the world who think of themselves better than the ordinary man. I think of him as worse than Cummings and I find it amazing that of all the people Johnson seems to surround himself with, he found the two biggest snobby tossers on the British Isles to bathe him in anointed oil. So sure, I am glad he is on the back benches. And I will be glad for him to be ejected from his seat in two years time.

And you can prove that can you?

[B0ycey]

Oh so if the leader of the 1922 committee stands up and says something it's a 'verified truth' but if a front bench spokesman stands up and says something, it's a deliberate lie.

He's a certified posh twit for sure but I personally went Mano a Mano with several others in that place in front of fairly shocked cameramen, and found them to be of singularly greater unpleasantness.

 The 1922 weren't going to lie about who had hit a hundred votes John because that is a huge scandal that would finish the Tories once and for all. And it should be said only one did and he had a coronation.

As for Mogg, it was a deliberate lie and everyone knew it. He said it so when Johnson phoned an MP begging for their vote, they would think he had a shot with the members. I have no time for the Moggs of the world who think of themselves better than the ordinary man. I think of him as worse than Cummings and I find it amazing that of all the people Johnson seems to surround himself with, he found the two biggest snobby tossers on the British Isles to bathe him in anointed oil. So sure, I am glad he is on the back benches. And I will be glad for him to be ejected from his seat in two years time.

[johnofgwent]

We had verification that Sunak had over 100 votes from the 1922 as they explicitly said that only one candidate hit the total and that was Sunak. Johnson dropped out so I knew you were in a bit of a piddle saying they verified something that simply didn't exist.

As for Johnsons total, Guido had him in the 80s, and he would have spoken to EVERYONE. The BBC had Johnson in the 50s and they were confirmed backers.

Also, we know Johnson didn't hit a 100 backers by his actions. No way on Earth Johnson drops out if he hits that target. You think he comes home from holiday early to drop out? No chance. Mogg is a lying snake lightweight. And like all lying snakes, they deserve to be on the back benches as far away from the podium as they can possibly be.

Oh so if the leader of the 1922 committee stands up and says something it's a 'verified truth' but if a front bench spokesman stands up and says something, it's a deliberate lie.

He's a certified posh twit for sure but I personally went Mano a Mano with several others in that place in front of fairly shocked cameramen, and found them to be of singularly greater unpleasantness.

[Barry]

Well Mogg needs to be on the back benches simply because he is a c*nt. And a c*nt of the worse kind, even worse than Cummings. I have never known such a slimy c*nt who has such low regard to anyone on a low income and if he thinks his acid words was going to trick people into thinking Johnson got a hundred backers than he really is the biggest dumb c*nt out there John. The only people who think he speaks truth are the biggest and stupidest Johnsonites who follow that dumb shits words on a promise Brexit can be better than what it currently is as they are that gullible.

Language, Timothy. 

[B0ycey]

Well we all have our beliefs and stances on here.

But stupid or gullible? I don't know about that but I know T00ts spent a good deal of time and effort trying to alleviate a problem that affected people with eyesight problems.

Thats  not gullible or stupid though it's the actions of someone doing their best to follow their faith,I follow no faith but see it does have its positives in its ideals.

In the heat of exchanges perhaps we should try to recognise the people behind the words we post.

I have nothing against T00ts Cromwell. That gullibility reference wasn't aimed specifically to her but anyone who thinks Mogg was telling the truth. He most certainly wasn't and Johnson wouldn't have dropped out if he was. We have had a least three years of threads on here about Johnson lying, so I don't really understand why anyone thinks the guy and his mini-me is telling the truth now when clearly it was BS so this is beyond words to be frank.

[B0ycey]

Well at least you managed that without swearing - thanks for that at least. I believe the 1922 ctee, you believe who suits your purpose. They saw the numbers, you didn't, and surely you don't believe what people 'say' they registered especially considering the vitriol that comes to those who might be seen to support Boris. Poor Jacob - constantly vilified for something that really isn't true, but then I guess his intelligence and command of the English language needs some understanding.

You are making it up T00ts. The only verification we had was Sunak has over 100 votes. If they did verify Johnson (he dropped out so they didn't) he had below a hundred anyway. Whatever way you want to look at this, Mogg is a lying snake.

[cromwell]

Well Mogg needs to be on the back benches simply because he is a c*nt. And a c*nt of the worse kind, even worse than Cummings. I have never known such a slimy c*nt who has such low regard to anyone on a low income and if he thinks his acid words was going to trick people into thinking Johnson got a hundred backers than he really is the biggest dumb c*nt out there John. The only people who think he speaks truth are the biggest and stupidest Johnsonites who follow that dumb shits words on a promise Brexit can be better than what it currently is as they are that gullible.

Well we all have our beliefs and stances on here.

But stupid or gullible? I don't know about that but I know T00ts spent a good deal of time and effort trying to alleviate a problem that affected people with eyesight problems.

Thats  not gullible or stupid though it's the actions of someone doing their best to follow their faith,I follow no faith but see it does have its positives in its ideals.

In the heat of exchanges perhaps we should try to recognise the people behind the words we post.

[T00ts]

We had verification that Sunak had over 100 votes from the 1922 as they explicitly said that only one candidate hit the total and that was Sunak. Johnson dropped out so I knew you were in a bit of a piddle saying they verified something that simply didn't exist.

As for Johnsons total, Guido had him in the 80s, and he would have spoken to EVERYONE. The BBC had Johnson in the 50s and they were confirmed backers.

Also, we know Johnson didn't hit a 100 backers by his actions. No way on Earth Johnson drops out if he hits that target. You think he comes home from holiday early to drop out? No chance. Mogg is a lying snake lightweight. And like all lying snakes, they deserve to be on the back benches as far away from the podium as they can possibly be.

Well at least you managed that without swearing - thanks for that at least. I believe the 1922 ctee, you believe who suits your purpose. They saw the numbers, you didn't, and surely you don't believe what people 'say' they registered especially considering the vitriol that comes to those who might be seen to support Boris. Poor Jacob - constantly vilified for something that really isn't true, but then I guess his intelligence and command of the English language needs some understanding.

[B0ycey]

Tell me - have you seen verification of any of the votes? Was there a final vote for Sunak by MPs or did they have to take the 1922's word for it? We were told by the media that Sunak had something like 200 or so votes but can we be sure or was that just pressure to drop the other two?  Perhaps your hatred of Tories clouds your judgement eh?

We had verification that Sunak had over 100 votes from the 1922 as they explicitly said that only one candidate hit the total and that was Sunak. Johnson dropped out so I knew you were in a bit of a piddle saying they verified something that simply didn't exist. 

As for Johnsons total, Guido had him in the 80s, and he would have spoken to EVERYONE. The BBC had Johnson in the 50s and they were confirmed backers.

Also, we know Johnson didn't hit a 100 backers by his actions. No way on Earth Johnson drops out if he hits that target. You think he comes home from holiday early to drop out? No chance. Mogg is a lying snake lightweight. And like all lying snakes, they deserve to be on the back benches as far away from the podium as they can possibly be.

[B0ycey]

Oh you mean just like every other member of Parliament they are milking a crisis they created, so now they want to use their usual manipulation tactics for their own means, well I never. Welcome to the Westminster party. It didn't start like that it has been manipulated by themselves. Anyway, ever notice how each crisis is now always global and the only way to fix it, is give the globalists even more power by any means and democracy is always bypassed.

Indeed. Something we can agree on Sheepy.