PC Gul loses out to Harry Miller and a reasonable judge

[Baron von Lotsov]

the interesting part of this is PC Gul's statement that "they had been on a course"



I wonder who offered it, who paid for it, and who authorised it for use by the police as training material



I have my own ideas, but i will keep them to myself

Ah - probably run by a local mason at 500 quid for a day times 20.



Nice work if you can get it.

[cromwell]

I don't disagree as far as the law goes, they do seem to be finding the line of what is and is not acceptable.

As far as the pictures went, I was thinking that people in glasshouses and all that.

Well it was purely a reply to your question and yeah I did get your line after looking at the photos,some woman called Caroline Flack has topped herself,I don't know who she is cos I don't watch love island.



She was due in court for an assault on her partner,we'll never know her guilt or innocence but she has by accounts been subjected to a huge amount of personal abuse on social media surrounding that and the supposition is that it contributed to her death.



Freedom of speech should be sacrosanct but when it is used as an excuse to harass or bully someone that is not freedom of speech,I have in the past seen an autistic relative told forcefully and loudly that people like them shouldn't be allowed out,the urge to remind that to cause such offence deserves a smack in the teeth was resisted.

[Barry]

I don't disagree as far as the law goes, they do seem to be finding the line of what is and is not acceptable.

As far as the pictures went, I was thinking that people in glasshouses and all that.

[cromwell]

Here's another trans case "pig in a wig", but take a look at the photos and make up your own mind.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004175/Mother-called-transgender-woman-pig-wig-convicted-sending-offensive-tweets.html">//https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004175/Mother-called-transgender-woman-pig-wig-convicted-sending-offensive-tweets.html

Did take a look and my conclusion is what someone looks like or decides to live their life as is irrelevant so long as they arent breaking the law nor harming anyone.



Someone following someone around and calling them a pig in a wig is not really free speech is it?

Harassment and bullying springs to mind and a sad specimen who makes it their life's work to so do.

[Barry]

Here's another trans case "pig in a wig", but take a look at the photos and make up your own mind.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004175/Mother-called-transgender-woman-pig-wig-convicted-sending-offensive-tweets.html">//https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004175/Mother-called-transgender-woman-pig-wig-convicted-sending-offensive-tweets.html

[Barry]

There's a bit more background here, John. See PC Mansour Gul or "Manny" Gul in this article which borders on the political.

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/transgender-woman-hate-crime-police-2175744">//https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/transgender-woman-hate-crime-police-2175744



Here's some more:

Meet the experts training police on trans issues

https://medium.com/@elsaegret/meet-the-people-training-uk-police-on-trans-issues-191e46b18246">//https://medium.com/@elsaegret/meet-the-people-training-uk-police-on-trans-issues-191e46b18246

[johnofgwent]

the interesting part of this is PC Gul's statement that "they had been on a course"



I wonder who offered it, who paid for it, and who authorised it for use by the police as training material



I have my own ideas, but i will keep them to myself

[Baron von Lotsov]

Do you know a "violent crime" now includes in its definition words that have been said to someone or even typed to someone.



There are over 200 000 thought crimes each year in the UK, so when reading or listening to crime statistics, take the figures on violent crimes with a pinch of salt since they are now confused with this crap.



I really do hope Mr Johnson turns against political correctness.

[T00ts]

This is outrageous:

https://www.melaniephillips.com/need-check-thinking-english-police-officer/">//https://www.melaniephillips.com/need-check-thinking-english-police-officer/

The police officer said:

"You have to understand, sometimes in the womb, a female brain gets confused and pushes out the wrong body parts, and that is what transgender is."





Full judgement here]https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/upl ... dgment.pdf">https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/miller-v-college-of-police-judgment.pdf[/url]



Beware the trans lobby.

The whole concept is horrific. This thought control has been a slow but purposeful creation now for some years. It hardly bears thinking about but it seems that to be heard one has to belong to a minority. I can only imagine where it will lead us. Future generations will suffer for this and they will look back and wonder what on earth we have been doing to allow this.

[Barry]

This is outrageous:

https://www.melaniephillips.com/need-check-thinking-english-police-officer/">//https://www.melaniephillips.com/need-check-thinking-english-police-officer/

The police officer said:

"You have to understand, sometimes in the womb, a female brain gets confused and pushes out the wrong body parts, and that is what transgender is."





Full judgement here]https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/upl ... dgment.pdf">https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/miller-v-college-of-police-judgment.pdf[/url]



Beware the trans lobby.