1 in 5 UK households with children go hungry during lockdown

[Borchester]

Yes, it's when they discover that the reports are false.

Your nurse's facebook story might not be completely true, either.

It says he had nothing to drink whilst self isolating. Does he not have water in his taps at home?

I'd like to find some follow up to that story to try to evidence it.



EDIT:

Found this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52078098">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52078098

I am 73 with tin knees and most every other complaint except woodworm. As often as not I bump down the stairs to the front door, but I usually get to the shops somehow. To be honest I find it a bit of an adventure. It was most likely that the old boy was hoping that the nurse would rub his sore bottom better.



I know that Pappy believes everything he reads but did not suspect that Dynamis had the same problem.  

[Borg Refinery]

They won't even believe the Tory bible.

..you mean bile? I think it's a Bore myself.



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[papasmurf]

This shows pensioners were starving even before the chaos.



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-million-lonely-pensioners-left-to-starve-in-their-homes-qkjtmcv22">https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-mi ... -qkjtmcv22">https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-million-lonely-pensioners-left-to-starve-in-their-homes-qkjtmcv22

They won't even believe the Tory bible.

[Borg Refinery]

This shows pensioners were starving even before the chaos.



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-million-lonely-pensioners-left-to-starve-in-their-homes-qkjtmcv22">https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-mi ... -qkjtmcv22">https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-million-lonely-pensioners-left-to-starve-in-their-homes-qkjtmcv22



A million lonely pensioners left to starve in their homes

Social care services have said that it is outside their scope to ensure there is food in the house

Social care services have said that it is outside their scope to ensure there is food in the house

Monday January 22 2018, 12.01am, The Times

As many as a million older people are starving in their homes through loneliness according to MPs who have called on ministers to redirect funds into schemes such as lunch clubs.



Isolation from relatives and friends is a bigger cause of malnutrition in the elderly than poverty, they say, and the winter fuel allowance should be means-tested to free money for meals on wheels and lunch clubs.



Supermarkets should have "slow checkout lanes" so that older people can get enough to eat by shopping without rushing, the all-party parliamentary group on hunger recommends.



It reports cases where people have gone without meals for weeks after losing a partner or wasted away over many months because they had no one to help them cook.

[Borg Refinery]

Yes, it's when they discover that the reports are false.

Your nurse's facebook story might not be completely true, either.

It says he had nothing to drink whilst self isolating. Does he not have water in his taps at home?

I'd like to find some follow up to that story to try to evidence it.



EDIT:

Found this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52078098">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52078098

No idea, but the nurse is the one who said he hadn't drank anything. Maybe she meant teas or coffees..who knows?



The fact that he died is pretty bad, they've omitted some of the info in the 2nd article re starving etc, but metro reprinted the story with the update that he died but the nurse was gifted a car - incl the bit about him starving. So no correction.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/hero-nurse-helped-dying-pensioner-coronavirus-given-new-car-12492866/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 92866/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/hero-nurse-helped-dying-pensioner-coronavirus-given-new-car-12492866/amp/



And I don't at all believe that articles are hidden purely due to being false. That's what corrections are for.



Do you honestly trust google? I don't.

[Barry]

Side note; there was a different story about a pensioner starving to death under lockdown due to total isolation. I can't find that story anywhere, it's 'disappeared' off google. How odd. I guarantee that search results are being manipulated to obscure stories like that, or at least make them much harder to find.

Yes, it's when they discover that the reports are false.

Your nurse's facebook story might not be completely true, either.

It says he had nothing to drink whilst self isolating. Does he not have water in his taps at home?

I'd like to find some follow up to that story to try to evidence it.



EDIT:

Found this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52078098">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52078098

[johnofgwent]

Guess what, not everyone uses facebollock and can't reach out to the closed 'support groups' that deliver food.

Ah yes. The Third Sector. The Welsh Assembly Arse Holes have abdicated responsibility to the well lubricated "third sector" (all of whom receive massive largesse on condition they only employ welsh speakers)

[Borg Refinery]

There aren't many people starving to death in this country, but it has happened, as unbelievable as it sounds and let's face it..it is hard to believe.



This isn't a starving to death case, but it's feckin tragic.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/03/28/pensioner-73-crashed-nurse-going-week-without-food-self-isolation-12469881/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 69881/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/03/28/pensioner-73-crashed-nurse-going-week-without-food-self-isolation-12469881/amp/

An off-duty nurse rushed to help an elderly man who crashed into her car after going more than a week without food in self-isolation.



Lucy Duncan, 24 was driving home from a 12 hour shift at the Wigan Infirmary, Greater Manchester, when another vehicle bumped into hers.



After she pulled over, a frightened pensioner opened his door and grabbed her arm in desperation before telling her he feared he had coronavirus.



The man, 73, told Lucy he had not been able to eat for 'seven to ten days' while in isolation because he had no friends or family to do his shopping for him.

Guess what, not everyone uses facebollock and can't reach out to the closed 'support groups' that deliver food. They're isolated with no damn internet and no phone credit. They rely on people checking up on them in person.



This callous society has really failed people like that OAP. They deserve a lot better.



Side note; there was a different story about a pensioner starving to death under lockdown due to total isolation. I can't find that story anywhere, it's 'disappeared' off google. How odd. I guarantee that search results are being manipulated to obscure stories like that, or at least make them much harder to find.

[johnofgwent]

The skills to manage a household budget and so on are learned and nurtured - they are not innate.  As such, if that person had no useful education and inadequate parenting themselves, it's really a myth to assume that these skills are inbuilt common sense that everyone has automatically.

 

It was eight and a half years ago now, but I am sure it still applies. Sarah's health visitor asked Sarah (then 24) to accompany her to the classes she held for pregnant teenagers and to bring Melissa (then less than a year old) along so these idiots would get a hint of what's about to hit them.



To be FAIR, most of the girls actually asked fairly intelligent questions



One particularly naive T@@@ well below the age of 18 asked "how soon after i have the baby will my figure return so i can go clubbing again"



While driving Sarah back home after the class the health visitor complimented her on her answer of "your clubbing days are over, kid"



Again to be fair, Sarah had to learn the hard way about budgeting but now she's certainly far better at it than I am. Mind you, my answer to financial shortages was always overtime or a more lucrative contract. And again to be fair when the company was running at full thrust before Blair killed it, we ALWAYS had at least a year's worth of "retirement level" living expenses in the savings account just in case.



Many others in my line of work did not. They drove Porsches. I drove a Vauxhall Nova. Admittedly the not quite bottom of the range model, and the one with the larger 1200 engine, but a Vauxhall Nova. My like minded colleagues all seemed to drive slightly larger diesel cars. But at the time they did more miles. I would join their mindset just before Blair got into power.



The porsche drivers were the first to go to the wall

[papasmurf]

Just been posted on local news website:-



More at link, (I suspect some people here are certain all the people in the article are lying bastards.)



https://www.cornwalllive.com/special-features/cornwall-emergency-appeal-helps-cornwalls-4088853">https://www.cornwalllive.com/special-fe ... ls-4088853">https://www.cornwalllive.com/special-features/cornwall-emergency-appeal-helps-cornwalls-4088853



Cornwall Emergency Appeal helps Cornwall's hungry

How you can help look after those less fortunate at this difficult time

11:04, 5 MAY 2020



This increase in demand for food from people struggling to feed themselves is mirrored in Cornwall. Donavan Gardner MBE, who manages Transformation CPR foodbank in Camborne, Redruth and Pool, said: "In the first three weeks of lockdown we did 10,500 meals, 4000 of which were delivered. Our phone is hot, 50 to 60 calls per day now. People are desperate and this is only going to get worse. Without the help of the Emergency Appeal I don't think we would have met demand."

[johnofgwent]

I appreciate there are special cases where the welfare has been delayed but any parent who cant manage the household budget that sees the kids fed wants to have a good look in the mirror .

One more way the welsh assembly have fucked up became obvious this week



Sarah is entitled to the vouchers intended to be used to obtain food for children of key workers and various vulnerable people.



For some reason, these are only redeemable in three supermarket chains, and the nearest is several miles across town. Walking there would violate the new Welsh Assembly regulations on distances from home. So Moira had to break the other lockdown regulations to pick her and Melissa up and drive her to one of these supermarkets



Assholes. Pissups. Breweries. Organise. (rearrange)

[papasmurf]

YOU cite pressure groups who try to tel us millions are STARVING TO DEATH.

They state no such thing. Going hungry is not starving to death.

[Javert]

I appreciate there are special cases where the welfare has been delayed but any parent who cant manage the household budget that sees the kids fed wants to have a good look in the mirror .



Having said that how have things changed for parents with disabled children ? (for example) . They would be getting the same benefits that they had before the  corona so how has the pandemic effected them to the extent that they are suddenly Hank Marvin  ?

The skills to manage a household budget and so on are learned and nurtured - they are not innate.  As such, if that person had no useful education and inadequate parenting themselves, it's really a myth to assume that these skills are inbuilt common sense that everyone has automatically.

[johnofgwent]

Unfortunately Dynamis, there are people on this forum who are TOTALLY blinkered and in denial about this and related issues.

Everytime I raise such issues I get a load of abuse and ridicule.

YOU cite pressure groups who try to tel us millions are STARVING TO DEATH.



It takes up to three minutes to die of asphxiation. It takes three hours to die through lack of shelter in a temperate zone. It takes three days for your body to start to run into serious trouble through lack of water. And it takes three MONTHS to starve to death. Anyone claiming anyone is STARVING TO DEATH less than a week after some event is just bullshitting.



Dynamis's report says that people are GOING HUNGRY. THAT can happen within hours. THAT is entirely believeable.



That's the most obvious difference between the stuff you post, and the item linked to here.

[Borg Refinery]

Actually it isn't the same on all forums, only ones inhabited by rabid right wingers.

In my experience, that's most of them on the interwebs.