Men are less likely to wear masks – another sign that toxic masculinity kills

[Borg Refinery]

So can HIV and other viruses...

Yep, but it's worth reminding people  (..and now someone on here will probably point out its prevalence in certain races or whatever..).

[patman post]

Btw, supposedly c19 can enter through the eyes

So can HIV and other viruses...

[DeppityDawg]

Btw, supposedly c19 can enter through the eyes as well.



Maybe this is the only guaranteed protection.



https://ibb.co/jvNCPc8">

You watch. Some daft **** will be wearing one of those in Tesco by the weekend.

[Borg Refinery]

Research by Edinburgh University finds that mask reduce the distance travelled by exhaled breath by 90%.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-homemade-masks-and-scarves-can-limit-spread-of-covid-19-study-says-but-there-are-downsides-11991766">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-11991766">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-homemade-masks-and-scarves-can-limit-spread-of-covid-19-study-says-but-there-are-downsides-11991766

A reduction of 90% in the distance breath travels doesn't necessarily equate to a 90% reduction in the spread of infection, of course, but it does indicate that masks are effective at reducing risks.

Btw, supposedly c19 can enter through the eyes as well.



Maybe this is the only guaranteed protection.



https://ibb.co/jvNCPc8">

[Borg Refinery]

Research by Edinburgh University finds that mask reduce the distance travelled by exhaled breath by 90%.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-homemade-masks-and-scarves-can-limit-spread-of-covid-19-study-says-but-there-are-downsides-11991766">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-11991766">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-homemade-masks-and-scarves-can-limit-spread-of-covid-19-study-says-but-there-are-downsides-11991766

A reduction of 90% in the distance breath travels doesn't necessarily equate to a 90% reduction in the spread of infection, of course, but it does indicate that masks are effective at reducing risks.

Yeah but not from the sides and "a sgnificant backward jet was observed" too.



Tbh you can 3D print N95's very, very cheaply and easily - the USAF and RAF have been doing this. Why aren't we able to get scientifically proven masks for pennies as should be the case?

[patman post]

The value of wearing masks is not fully proven, especially in social situations - there is very little evidence about the value of masks for example in a drunken nightclub, restaurant etc, or even in a long (several hour) meeting with colleagues in the same room.



Masks are proven to work in medical scenarios when very strict procedures are followed, but in social scenarios the evidence is patchy.  There is some benefit, but just saying - "wear a mask and other than that go back to your normal life" would be an very risky move.

I'm not suggesting any mask is 100% effective on its own. But there's enough evidence through custom and practice in the medical profession to assume mask-wearers give some protection to other people. Therefore, everybody wearing masks would increase overall protection.



In assuming people are washing their hands, I'm also making the assumption that most people are currently taking their cue from the cessation of events where people congregate and are not attending "drunken nightclub, restaurant etc".



Add there are the different functions of two types of mask — one to protect other people, and the other to protect the wearer...

[Javert]

Assuming everyone is washing their hands, logic would seem to indicate that the general public's protection from coronavirus is good in everyday life if everybody wears a mask — ie, they are protected from others, and protect others from them. So it's not like being macho and refusing to wear a helmet on a  bike where only the non-wearer risks physical harm.

Better protection would be gained from wearing FFP3 masks — these protect the wearer but, at around £5 to £15 a piece in normal times, are expensive for single use disposables...

The value of wearing masks is not fully proven, especially in social situations - there is very little evidence about the value of masks for example in a drunken nightclub, restaurant etc, or even in a long (several hour) meeting with colleagues in the same room.



Masks are proven to work in medical scenarios when very strict procedures are followed, but in social scenarios the evidence is patchy.  There is some benefit, but just saying - "wear a mask and other than that go back to your normal life" would be an very risky move.

[patman post]

Assuming everyone is washing their hands, logic would seem to indicate that the general public's protection from coronavirus is good in everyday life if everybody wears a mask — ie, they are protected from others, and protect others from them. So it's not like being macho and refusing to wear a helmet on a  bike where only the non-wearer risks physical harm.

Better protection would be gained from wearing FFP3 masks — these protect the wearer but, at around £5 to £15 a piece in normal times, are expensive for single use disposables...

[Hyperduck Quack Quack]

A cloth mask is 10-30% effective at a push.



IIRC a surgical one is 60%. And an N95 is 95% effective on 0.1-0.3 micron particles.



Seeing as N95's are going for £200 for 30, and if they're not completely sold out as they often are, is it any wonder that people are taking risks?



Wearing a cloth mask is like having a seatbelt that works as little as 10% of the time.



It's just a horrible idea.



Now if N95's weren't marked up so high and were easily available, do you not think more folks wouldn't be wearing them?

Research by Edinburgh University finds that mask reduce the distance travelled by exhaled breath by 90%.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-homemade-masks-and-scarves-can-limit-spread-of-covid-19-study-says-but-there-are-downsides-11991766">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-11991766">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-homemade-masks-and-scarves-can-limit-spread-of-covid-19-study-says-but-there-are-downsides-11991766

A reduction of 90% in the distance breath travels doesn't necessarily equate to a 90% reduction in the spread of infection, of course, but it does indicate that masks are effective at reducing risks.

[Borg Refinery]

Ah, well fair enough.



There is a way to test them just to be safe (US dept video);



https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=D38BjgUdL5U">https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb ... 38BjgUdL5U">https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=D38BjgUdL5U

Here is a video from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) on fit testing:





As the video shows, one method of fit testing is for you to put on the mask and then have someone spray one of the following around you:



Isoamyl acetate, which smells like bananas;

Saccharin, which leaves a sweet taste in your mouth;

Bitrex, which leaves a bitter taste in your mouth; and

Irritant smoke, which can cause coughing.

Smelling bananas can be nice when you are in a bakery. However, not in this case. If you end up smelling one of the first three or coughing from the fourth, the mask is not keeping out what it's supposed to keep out of your nose.

The long article is available if anyone is interested;



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/29/making-an-n95-mask-for-covid-19-coronavirus-what-you-need-to-know/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... -know/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/29/making-an-n95-mask-for-covid-19-coronavirus-what-you-need-to-know/amp/

[cromwell]

How do you know they are kosher?

well like most of this gear it's made in China.....came with a certificate of conformity.



Could be fake but I read through the rev iews and no one had complained and they seem ok to me but then I'm not an expert on masks,viruses and much else.

Paid the money and took the chance.

[Borg Refinery]

Fleabay

How do you know they are kosher?

[cromwell]

Where did you get them? I tried ukmeds and a few other sites, it's £8-10 per mask from what I could find..

Fleabay

[Borg Refinery]

Bought n95's £3 apiece and worth every penny

Where did you get them? I tried ukmeds and a few other sites, it's £8-10 per mask from what I could find..

[Borchester]

The Sun kills some bacteria and viruses.

Only when it had the Page Three girls who made me feel twenty five again and determined to live for ever. Even the Mail has cut back on the soft porn since that tiresome EU loving prig  Geordie Greig became editor. And it was shortly after he took over that the Chines Cold arrived.



What this country needs is not more masks but more filth.