What's really bad about the Durham trips story....

[B0ycey]

Oh my. Don't make me laugh boysie, my lips are chapped.



I hereby award you the Boysie Award (First Class) For Stating The Bleeding Obvious. Carry on like this and come the revolution they will name a Gulag after you  



     

 :thup:  ::



Thanks. But I am no Stalinists. I think a Scandinavian type of Socialism can be achieved without sending everyone to jail. Like all national projects, people tend to support them better when the government run things then once they are run for profit.

[Borchester]

Are we to pretend that Blairites are Socialist reformists?



Although you can repeat your nonsense as much as you like, the Tories are in power because they didn't split their vote.

Oh my. Don't make me laugh boysie, my lips are chapped.



I hereby award you the Boysie Award (First Class) For Stating The Bleeding Obvious. Carry on like this and come the revolution they will name a Gulag after you  



     

[B0ycey]

ah ok mate.





Richard murphy of tax research uk said...













....and as we always point out , the same country that beggared india over 180 years and recorded a deficit in each of theose 180 years while secretly extracting 45 trillion , is now telling scotland the same as it did every other one of the 62 nations of the empire.







https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/">https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/201 ... l-deficit/">https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/

You are aware that government expenditure will go up outside the UK because of cost burden aren't you? Although being I live in Scotland that isn't really a point aimed at me anyways right?



For an independent Scotland to keep its spending habits, it will require mass immigration which is why the SNP want it more than anything. It is why there be a big movement up north when it happens. It is why the Left can wait.

[Thomas]

 the SNP is the next step. And until the generation divide turns left in the UK, will remain the next time for the foreseeable future.

 ::



Wait what?

 



Ther snp is now the vehicle for the brit left?



 ::





You remind me of that momentum nutjob who smoked hash and posted regularly from his smoke filled tent on a wiltshire field on our auld forum.



forget his name. Completely zany like you.

[Thomas]

 Because as it stands, it is financially not viable, with a huge f**king deficit with expensive oil. The days Scotland ran a surplus are over.

ah ok mate.





Richard murphy of tax research uk said...

The GERS data is ludicrous: Scotland does not generate 60% of the UK's net fiscal deficit

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income is estimated on the basis of that arising in scotland but spending is estimated based on that arising for scotland.So only taxes paid in scotland are included.



..But expenditure based in england wales and northern ireland is also charged to scotland when scotland allegedly is deemed to benefit from it.



The tax paid to generate that expenditure is not taken into account.



The whole system is therfore desgined toshow a deficit that doesnt exist in scotland.

[/b]



....and as we always point out , the same country that beggared india over 180 years and recorded a deficit in each of theose 180 years while secretly extracting 45 trillion , is now telling scotland the same as it did every other one of the 62 nations of the empire.







https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/">https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/201 ... l-deficit/">https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/

[B0ycey]

https://www.snp.org/snp-oppose-trident-renewal-whilst-labour-abstain/">https://www.snp.org/snp-oppose-trident- ... r-abstain/">https://www.snp.org/snp-oppose-trident-renewal-whilst-labour-abstain/



Labour MPs Vote With Government To Renew Trident With New Submarines



https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-mps-vote-for-to-renew-trident-with-new-submarines-jeremy-corbyn-votes-against_uk_578d4170e4b0885619b103a6">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 5619b103a6">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-mps-vote-for-to-renew-trident-with-new-submarines-jeremy-corbyn-votes-against_uk_578d4170e4b0885619b103a6



labours policy under corbyn on trident was one of the most muddled ill thought out pieces on nonsense i have ever had the misfortune to hear in all my years.



Good old british left , all over the place on every concevable issue , yet cant understand why no one want s them elected  ::

Corbyn was just one step. He was never the answer. He had way too much baggage like Trident and was a generation ahead of his time in terms of policy. Besides, the SNP is the next step. And until the generation divide turns left in the UK, will remain the next time for the foreseeable future.

[Thomas]

Faced with the opportunity to issue a symbolic public rebuke to the government for bypassing Parliament on a matter of war and breaking international law, the radical socialist opposition Labour Party of Jeremy Corbyn... abstained.



But few were surprised when that right was tossed aside without a word of protest from Labour (indeed, with some vocal support from the Labour benches), because it added to a very long list of Labour abstentions when the chips were down on any number of major issues of recent years:



On a Tory bill for an early EU referendum



On retrospectively depriving workfare victims of compensation



On the right of civil servants to strike



On rejecting the siting of nuclear weapons in Scotland



On condemning the Iraq war



On free tuition for students



On minimum pricing of alcohol



On opposing the top-rate tax cut from 50p to 45p



On opposing savage cuts to public-sector pensions



On stopping fuel-duty increases



On maintaining concessionary bus travel for the elderly



On massive pay rises for councillors



On the criminalisation of squatting



On reducing VAT from 20% to 17.5%



On the Scottish budget



On brutal immigration reforms



On fracking



On the bedroom tax



On savage welfare cuts and the benefits cap



On welfare cuts again



When it really matters – and sometimes even when it doesn't and is just an easy open goal spooned into the stands – you can always count on Labour to do nothing.

[/b]



https://wingsoverscotland.com/trampling-on-graves/#more-102637">https://wingsoverscotland.com/trampling ... ore-102637">https://wingsoverscotland.com/trampling-on-graves/#more-102637

[B0ycey]

Im happy to keep renting faslane and coulport to you for a small fee for a number of years while you build your own facilities. ::

Rent? Until independence it is the UK. And with independence, the waters in the rest of the UK are too shallow to make Trident worth keeping. You don't get it. Trident is actually the only reason Westminster want to keep Scotland. Because as it stands, it is financially not viable, with a huge fucking deficit with expensive oil. The days Scotland ran a surplus are over.

[Thomas]

The SNP oppose Trident renewal whilst Labour abstain

[/b]



https://www.snp.org/snp-oppose-trident-renewal-whilst-labour-abstain/">https://www.snp.org/snp-oppose-trident- ... r-abstain/">https://www.snp.org/snp-oppose-trident-renewal-whilst-labour-abstain/



Labour MPs Vote With Government To Renew Trident With New Submarines



https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-mps-vote-for-to-renew-trident-with-new-submarines-jeremy-corbyn-votes-against_uk_578d4170e4b0885619b103a6">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 5619b103a6">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-mps-vote-for-to-renew-trident-with-new-submarines-jeremy-corbyn-votes-against_uk_578d4170e4b0885619b103a6



labours policy under corbyn on trident was one of the most muddled ill thought out pieces on nonsense i have ever had the misfortune to hear in all my years.



Good old british left , all over the place on every concevable issue , yet cant understand why no one want s them elected  ::

[Thomas]

Nobody cares. The SNP is basically the Socialist revolution. That is they are more like old Labour than new Labour.

you obviously do to respond. So we are no longer the tartan tories but now the tartan communists? ::

It is a generation or two before we see the youth vote count for anything in the UK.

The uk wont survive a generation or two for that to happen , if it ever does.

But in many ways if Scotland is to leave it would be better to do so now before we waste even more money on Trident. But Johnson is going to stop that happening for at least five years and whilst the is a 50/50, you can forget about revolution either.

Im happy to keep renting faslane and coulport to you for a small fee for a number of years while you build your own facilities. ::

[B0ycey]

::



You already did , and the labour vote up here despise momentum.



Oh and the tories have more seats and votes in scotland than you momentum loonies with your 18.6% of the vote  and fourth place. ::



Everytime an english momemtum loony chapped on a scottish door , the SNP took another vote.

Nobody cares. The SNP is basically the Socialist revolution. That is they are more like old Labour than new Labour. It is a generation or two before we see the youth vote count for anything in the UK. And when it does it changes the whole political divide. Your so blind to think I care about something as pointless as the Union. It is on borrowed time. Again that is an age demographic. But in many ways if Scotland is to leave it would be better to do so now before we waste even more money on Trident. But Johnson is going to stop that happening for at least five years and whilst the is a 50/50, you can forget about revolution either.

[Thomas]

Shame. Our lot are moving to Scotland.

 ::



You already did , and the labour vote up here despise momentum.



Oh and the tories have more seats and votes in scotland than you momentum loonies with your 18.6% of the vote  and fourth place. ::



Everytime an english momemtum loony chapped on a scottish door , the SNP took another vote.

[B0ycey]

Oh and im no a scot tory mate. (old man was)



Im simply saying i hate you lot more than i hate them.  :thup:

Shame. Our lot are moving to Scotland.

[Thomas]

. I never known a Scot Tory before

Oh and im no a scot tory mate. (old man was)



Im simply saying i hate you lot more than i hate them.  :thup:

[Thomas]

Yeah. That is what I thought. I never known a Scot Tory before. Seems more passionate about Brexit than even Baff. ::

Well if you want to complain about being off topic , you are engaging with the righty man , pappy smurf.



The most prolific off topic poster over two forums i have known.



The immigrant to cornwall who hates immgrants , which is only slightly shadowed by his hatred of the tories whic often boils over to threatening to shoot politicians.



Still you divert boycey.  :roll:



Nice wee get out clause for the cac you talk.