Coronavirus infection rate is still too high

[patman post]

25 May 1625

26 May 2004

27 May 2013

28 May 1887

29 May 2095

30 May 1604

31 May 1936

Week's average: 1881.





You keep saying, "Give it a week", but it's over a fortnight now.  ::  ::

The figures you're stating are the results of a max of around 200,000 tests a day.

Extrapolate those results across the whole population with whatever caveats, tweets and models the virologist-statisticians use, and you'll get many times the test results...

[Javert]

I was rather thinking of having one of those Stay Calm And Carry On posters. You could stand underneath piddling down your leg in fear of something or other and everyone else could take photos.  

Hmmm - well I stayed at home looking after the kids when I had this virus whilst your government friend Mr Cummings fled at the first hint of a sniffle.

[papasmurf]

No but you seem hard of understanding and you are about to reach my limit of having a debate with a Smurf who moves the goalposts when he's proven wrong.

You posted:



And I have shown from official figures that the weeks average is 1881.



Please point out where these figures are incorrect.

Please point out how there are still 8000 new infections per day. Thanks.

Sorry Barry but you are too scared to believe to ONS. The ONS figures are close enough to 8000 a day for me.

You hiding from the truth is like putting a blanket over your head to make you feel safe when there is a Tiger outside the tent.

If you disagree with the ONS take in up with them, and leave me alone it is you who are scared not me.

[Barry]

Barry is there something wrong with your eyesight?



https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26



It is estimated that there was an average of 54,000 new infections per week over the period of the study, which is between 26 April and 24 May,

No but you seem hard of understanding and you are about to reach my limit of having a debate with a Smurf who moves the goalposts when he's proven wrong.

You posted:

What an odd question.The are still 8000 new infections per day, which is frankly VERY worrying given the lock-down. How is it still getting spread in those numbers?

And I have shown from official figures that the weeks average is 1881.



Please point out where these figures are incorrect.

Please point out how there are still 8000 new infections per day. Thanks.

[papasmurf]

Barry is there something wrong with your eyesight?



https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26



It is estimated that there was an average of 54,000 new infections per week over the period of the study, which is between 26 April and 24 May,

[Barry]

According to ONS:

It is estimated that there was an average of 54,000 new infections per week over the period of the study, which is between 26 April and 24 May, for people living in private-residential households in the community in England. This equates to an incidence rate of 0.10 new cases per 100 people.



https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26



That seems to average out at 7,714 new infections a day...

25 May 1625

26 May 2004

27 May 2013

28 May 1887

29 May 2095

30 May 1604

31 May 1936

Week's average: 1881.

No lies involved, I prefer to believe scientists who are not fettered by the official secrets act. Looking at news bulletins this evening beaches packed no social distancing, similar in other areas.

That 8000 a day is going to look nowhere high enough give it a week.

Frankly it is a disaster, of the government's making.

You keep saying, "Give it a week", but it's over a fortnight now.  ::  ::

[papasmurf]

When this is all over and the holiday makers recall the big f**k off they have been getting from you you and your fellows, I can only hope they go and spend their money elsewhere.

It is the lock down breakers causing problems who are not wanted and those problems are nation wide in coastal area and beauty spots.

They are not currently wanted anywhere. (Is your access to daily news and current affairs broken?)

[cromwell]

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Borchester and smurfy if you wish to play silly buggers please go and do it in the off topic thread.

[Borchester]

Ho effing ho.  It is infections not deaths that is being discussed on this thread.  The only deaths likely to happen here are of those who ignore the notice at the entrance to the village:- This village is on lock down isolation, go home.

(Given the bad feeling here about lock-down breakers I am surprise there isn't a road block.)

I spend most of the autumn and winter months spraying snot and germs everywhere and getting ready for the spring and summer hay fever season. This Chinese nonsense is just one bug among zillions and the only bit that interests me is the chance of it killing me. So far the mortality rate appears to be in decline which is good enough for me.



When this is all over and the holiday makers recall the big F@@@ off they have been getting from you you and your fellows, I can only hope they go and spend their money elsewhere.

[papasmurf]

According to these guys...



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/">//%20%20https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/%20



there were only 131 deaths Covid deaths on Sunday. That is the lowest it has been since the last time it was 131 and suggests that this bug is on its way out.

 It is infections not deaths that is being discussed on this thread.  The only deaths likely to happen here are of those who ignore the notice at the entrance to the village:- This village is on lock down isolation, go home.

[Borchester]

According to these guys...



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/">//%20%20https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/%20



there were only 131 deaths Covid deaths on Sunday. That is the lowest it has been since the last time it was 131 and suggests that this bug is on its way out.

[papasmurf]

According to ONS:

It is estimated that there was an average of 54,000 new infections per week over the period of the study, which is between 26 April and 24 May, for people living in private-residential households in the community in England. This equates to an incidence rate of 0.10 new cases per 100 people.



https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26



That seems to average out at 7,714 new infections a day...

Close enough to 8000 for me.

[patman post]

You can't quote any official figures to back up your claim because you listened to a left wing expert who has constantly been on the government's back over Covid19.

You've been found wanting with your lies inappropriate assertions again. Quelle surprise!

1,936, is definitely not 8,000.

According to ONS:

It is estimated that there was an average of 54,000 new infections per week over the period of the study, which is between 26 April and 24 May, for people living in private-residential households in the community in England. This equates to an incidence rate of 0.10 new cases per 100 people.



https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2020-03-26">https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26



That seems to average out at 7,714 new infections a day...

[Thomas]

^^Thomas, it is interesting. It's therefore debatable that lockdown is very effective, if effective at all.

However, the anti government types like PS will be happy to extend any damage to the economy, as they will use that against them come the next election.

Barry , i 100 % assure you it isnt just the labour luvvies in England , the same hysterics are trying to blame mrs sturgeon and the scot gov up here as well.



"The public will never forgive sturgeon for all the care homes deaths !" Blah blah blah. You go on many of the scottish forums , and the same "folk " saying the same things about the tories in england are saying the same thing about the scot gov.



If only labour were in charge , none of this would have happened. ::  :roll:



...but aye , interesting article well thought out and argued. There does seem to be a growing counter argument to all these left wing lockdown hysterics  , they are gradually coming through now each day providing a counter narrative.



If that article is true and what , lockdown has only saved something like 5 % more reduction in deaths than other sensible measures , by feck you have to ask has it been worth it.

[papasmurf]

^^Thomas, it is interesting. It's therefore debatable that lockdown is very effective, if effective at all.

However, the anti government types like PS will be happy to extend any damage to the economy, as they will use that against them come the next election.

Because the lock-down was effectively not enforced. The  fact Bojo The Clown has against scientific advice allowed "any distance travel," there will be a large spike in infections in the next few days with the "track and trace," system a failure.