George Floyd Riots

[papasmurf]

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Protests go continental!  :shock:

With no social distancing.

[B0ycey]

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Protests go continental!  :shock:

[Nalaar]

That link appears to be someone saying the Police slashed tyres? Several commenting on that page have asked if there is any actual evidence of that? Is there?

Presumably you also read his responses, clarifying it was the police who had the lot locked down, and other videos of police slashing tires?

:dmq:



PAV is an irritant, its hardly lethal. Its used to keep people or crowds at a distance.

and they're shooting it at a lone camera crew why?

[DeppityDawg]

Some more clips -



Police proactively slashing tires of cars in parking lot -



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That link appears to be someone saying the Police slashed tyres? Several commenting on that page have asked if there is any actual evidence of that? Is there?

and shooting a media crew with pepper bullets -



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It's impressive how badly they are reacting/acting in many of these situations.

 :dmq:



PAV is an irritant, its hardly lethal. Its used to keep people or crowds at a distance.

[Nalaar]

Some more clips -



Police proactively slashing tires of cars in parking lot -



https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1266987126467461120?s=21">https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status ... 61120?s=21">https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1266987126467461120?s=21



and shooting a media crew with pepper bullets -



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It's impressive how badly they are reacting/acting in many of these situations.

[Sampanviking]

Ahh - More Freedom and Democracy Protestors - peacefully protesting - now I get it.

[B0ycey]

You haven't seen the video I can tell Barry. Floyd was cuffed and calling out that he couldn't breathe. There was three cops, one with his knee on his neck. And this is basic behaviour from the police to the black community in America.



These riots are not spontaneous.

[Barry]

Your experience with the police will always be down to your personal situation. The poorer you are, the worse the experience.

That's utter tripe.

I was brought up on a council estate as the youngest of three boys and my Dad was a lorry driver barely earning a living wage. My Mum had trouble feeding the electricity meter at times and we had no luxuries whatsoever. However we had respect from the Police and we gave respect back.

The people who seem to have problems with the police are the lawbreakers. Mr Floyd was a lawbreaker.

Nonetheless the difference between our police and the Americans is they have a weapon in a holster. Without a gun an officer is forced to defuse the situation calmly  whereas in America a gun means they have the means to be heavy handed and maintain the upperhand. Which is why you hear about police brutality across the pond all the time.

I'm not an advocate of arming every police officer, however, the inference here that it will sometimes be OK for an officer to lose the upper hand if their defusing skills are found wanting is not a sustainable position. Negotiating a way out of violence does not always work, especially with people who are drugged, drunk, or mentally deranged.

Police officers are meant to be protecting life and property, and if a criminal is about to disable them through violence, the officer needs to strike first and disable them first. That's not to say that violence needs to be lethal in every case, as often pepper spray or a taser will do the job.

However, going for a bank robber with a taser, when he has a revolver or shotgun will end badly.



None of this supports the use of lethal pressure on a man's neck when he is being held down by multiple officers. Floyd appears to have been unlawfully killed and the person responsible charged.

Rioting will not help the cause of justice.

[B0ycey]

Citizens having the police shot rubber bullets / pepper bullets at them because they were standing at their front door is...not something I would expect from a healthy free society.



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Welcome to America!



How to defuse tension the Trump way. Send in the artillery.

[Nalaar]

Citizens having the police shot rubber bullets / pepper bullets at them because they were standing at their front door is...not something I would expect from a healthy free society.



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[Borg Refinery]

Your experience with the police will always be down to your personal situation. The poorer you are, the worse the experience.

Are you insinuating I'm well off? ::



You couldn't be more wrong boycey. And other than a few instances, they've always treated me well, and those instances had nothing to do with economic status.



There are legitimate reasons to be pissed off here but agent provocateurs, and no doubt some general nuisance troublemakers want to go OTT and 'kill pigs'.



Please tell me that you disapprove of that.

[B0ycey]

Who knows. But I'm not one to bash the cops these days, in my experience the police are very reasonable, mostly.

Your experience with the police will always be down to your personal situation. The poorer you are, the worse the experience.



Nonetheless the difference between our police and the Americans is they have a weapon in a holster. Without a gun an officer is forced to defuse the situation calmly  whereas in America a gun means they have the means to be heavy handed and maintain the upperhand. Which is why you hear about police brutality across the pond all the time.

[Borg Refinery]

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They tried to storm the white house.



America has lost the plot completely.



Apparently, lots of SVR & GRU agents have been trying to stoke racial unrest for years now, with multi fake front groups. No one knows how pervasive this influence is.



Heh.



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Equally it could be just homegrown disaffectees.



Who knows. But I'm not one to bash the cops these days, in my experience the police are very reasonable, mostly.



The horrific scenes of dead cops? No mate. No justificatiin for that, and feck you if you are trying to justify it.



Is it any wonder the NYPD are ramming cars into protesters?



The peaceful protesters, however, have every right to protest but the rioters are absolute scum.

[B0ycey]

Dunno.



The US underclasses (rioters) are going on one of their periodic nihilist  rampages and will ultimately be put down by the upper working and middleclasses (police and National Guards). Meanwhile the rest of America will think, well, Trump is a crazy bastard but anything is better than this and will vote him in for another term in November.

I suspect on this occasion, as it due to race, although this isn't going away any time soon, it won't be the turning point in Americas class divide. But opportunism riots are national. That is to say due to hardship people are looting for personal gain whilst peaceful protests take place. And excessive unemployment has only just happened. Are we to expect the Bourgeois to maintain their class hierarchy as ordinary Americans go bankrupt and hungry?



It takes a lot for a nation to uprise. And perhaps even more so when the political divide is so extreme allowing the right to cheerlead their man regardless whether that man profits off their hardship as long as he maintains some BS "Mexicans stole your job and gave drugs to your daughter, build the wall" narrative to keep them on board. But this is a sign of things to come. And is a sign of the contradictions of capitalism and the class divide breaking the Superstructure.



The rise of Sanders isn't unique. He has been kept off the Democrats card for the past few elections due to "Super Delegates and not votes and that is down to the bourgeoisie buying their way to the White house. But it does show you that people are beginning to understand their class distinction. And when that happens culture changes and society evolves.



The power is with the people. Workers of the world, Unite!

[Borchester]

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Another racist cop killing again another mass riot. At a time America is in the mist of a pandemic, inequality - especially in regard to race, seems to have split the country again.



For a man regarded as a deal breaker, he sure hasn't got the art for the deal in regards to running a nation. The UK class and wealth divide might be an issue today, but compared to America we are merely small fry. Should such fury hit our lands, I suspect government would topple.

Dunno.



The US underclasses (rioters) are going on one of their periodic nihilist  rampages and will ultimately be put down by the upper working and middleclasses (police and National Guards). Meanwhile the rest of America will think, well, Trump is a crazy bastard but anything is better than this and will vote him in for another term in November.