George Floyd Riots

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Quote from: MrMonkey23 on June 18, 2020, 12:26:57 PM
If you listen to the bbc and guardian types, it would seem the blm protests are all peaceful,

The one in Truro wasn't someone threw a pasty at the police. (No-one Cornish would throw a pasty, unless it was a Ginsters.)
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MrMonkey23

If you listen to the bbc and guardian types, it would seem the blm protests are all peacful, with a few raised voices and slogans printed on t-shirts (t-shirts, which are likely made in sri lanka by some poor under paid child forced labour) where the counter protests, spreading the message that ALL LIVES MATTER is seen as violent protests by thugs and rioters.  A black guy assultsa white person, race and ethnicity is not reported.  A white person assults a black person,the reporters will not let it go undocumented that the assailant was white.  Bias reporting is turning people towards a cause which is going to swing things too far the other way?

There is clearly a problem if they have to cover up statues of people for fear that black lives matter protestors are going to vandalise them.  Is vandalism only a crime if committed by a white person?

My take on this - Yes the police should be reined in.  They have too much power (and more handed to them by the corona virus act).  The government has in effect created a police state, and has people in fear.  All in the name of health and safety.  Millions (of ficticious, made up money) spent setting up nightingale hospitals to accomodate 000's of people.  50 or so actually made use of them, based on erroneous figures, yet we will be expected to pay for this.

floyd should not have been killed.  Again, thepolice need reining in.  The officer should be investigated and if necessary held accountable for his actions.  Although everyone has slammed Trump, he did actually say this was happening.  Where the blm didn't like it was when he made a stand against their bullying.  If obama had done this, he would be making a stand against lawlessness. Trump does it, he's a racist thug

Although we are told about the history of racism in the police force, we are told nothing of floyds criminal past, robbing people at gun point.  We are told he was claustrophobic and didnt want to get in the police car because he wasnt happy in a vehicle.  Was he not ordered out (and, in the interests of the law, complied with@ a request to get out OF A VEHICLE which he had, of his own volition, entered?  Are we should he was not aware he had done wrong and was trying to 'getaway with it'?  If we are dragging up the past of one side, we much be balanced.  I find his pictures and image everywhere to be offiensive, or if we are celebrating armed robbers now perhaps we should all go and do it

Removing of statues - criminal.  Oxford university is a discgrace.  Yes, some of the figures have unsavory histories.  Institutions like Oxford University were happy to celebrate the legacy of the good these people have done, they cannot pick and choose.  Leave the statue.  Taking down a statue of someone who did what was then, acceptable, to bring benefits to the society, in memory of an armed robber seems hyprocritical in the sensewe are ignoring the parts of his history which we find inconvenient, to celebrate the positives (which seem limited to drawing attention to a particular popular cause)

I would suggest black lives matter is a movement dedicated to promoting black supremacy.  All lives matter, which seems a much more sensible message (which is inclusive of black, white, green, blue, yellow etc) is now seen as racist, far right extemist.

Pro-White movements are banned, if we are being fair surely Black Lives Matter being pro black (at the suggested expense of other races) should also be seen as the same and banned?

The take away from this - yes, the police and state need to be kicked into touch.  However you cannot fight discrimination and bias with discrimination and bias, that is no better than simply shifting the pile of washing to another basket

Barry

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Borg Refinery

Quote from: Barry on June 15, 2020, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on June 15, 2020, 04:21:12 PM
Of course, haven't you heard of the Rochdale Herald?
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Streetwalker

Quote from: johnofgwent on June 15, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Now it depends on where you look, but it seems the Prophet Mohammed was a slave owner and bought and sold slaves.

So when do BLM start burning mosques?

This is part of the hypocrisy of the whole BLM protest . While we have to suffer their rantings and the targeting of British history they seem keen to ignore the above , the ongoing slave trade in Africa , the genocide of Muslims in China  and not to mention the black on black murders across the USA and western Europe that far outnumber anything that can be construed as racist .

Maybe we are just a weak and easy target

Barry

Quote from: Dynamis on June 15, 2020, 04:21:12 PM
Of course, haven't you heard of the Rochdale Herald?
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Borg Refinery

Quote from: johnofgwent on June 15, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Now it depends on where you look, but it seems the Prophet Mohammed was a slave owner and bought and sold slaves.

So when do BLM start burning mosques?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/rochdaleherald.co.uk/2020/06/11/far-right-groups-threaten-to-tear-down-statues-of-prophet-mohammed/%3famp
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papasmurf

Quote from: johnofgwent on June 15, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Now it depends on where you look, but it seems the Prophet Mohammed was a slave owner and bought and sold slaves.

So when do BLM start burning mosques?

That made me laugh.
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johnofgwent

Now it depends on where you look, but it seems the Prophet Mohammed was a slave owner and bought and sold slaves.

So when do BLM start burning mosques?

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While the bastards who attacked cops deserve what's coming to em', there have been concerted attempts to completely discredit the protests by alleging mass rioting by the majority with LOADS of hurt cops.


https://fullfact.org/online/blm-protest-london-pictures/
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Borchester

Quote from: Barry post_id=28682 time=1591811510 user_id=51
How do we know the cop is racist?

He was obviously a bad cop, to kill someone whilst arresting them. However was the action the result of racism, or just over enthusiastic restraint, or mere thuggery?




Now that is the 64,000 shilling question.



Derek Chauvin had a string of complaints made against him and was a policeman in the police department of Minneapolis. Minneapolis is run by the Democrats and  as such can be assumed to be fairly liberal. Yet Chauvin was still on front line duty.



In Buffalo, another city run by the Democrats, the police response to an old man standing in their way was to knock him arse over tea kettle.



There have been several other incidents and they all appear to have been in places with Liberal administrations.



And it has all happened before.



So my take on the matter is that the various police departments will be reformed and the constabulary retrained and taught to be better men and women and start patrolling the ghettos and get the same old shit and think feck this for a game of soldiers. The right on members of the force will then find work in the more salubrious parts of the city or on the numerous raising awareness programs that will have no doubt been put in place by the City Fathers ( and girlies and those who aren't sure exactly what they are) while the more unpleasant parts of town will be policed by hardcases such as Chauvin because no one else will do the job.



Matters will probably tick over for another ten or so years before one of George Floyd's successor's get a kicking by one of Derek Chauvin's and the locals will think, mmh, time to pick up a new TV, while the rent a mob will hug looters and find something to feel deliciously guilty about.



And then the whole business will start again   :D  :D
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Barry post_id=28682 time=1591811510 user_id=51


 And woe betide America if he is found not guilty.




It will be a challenge to find a jury that has not already formed a view one way or another . I think the septics may have to get Epstein's jailers on the case

Barry

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Another racist cop killing again another mass riot. At a time America is in the mist of a pandemic, inequality - especially in regard to race, seems to have split the country again.



For a man regarded as a deal breaker, he sure hasn't got the art for the deal in regards to running a nation. The UK class and wealth divide might be an issue today, but compared to America we are merely small fry. Should such fury hit our lands, I suspect government would topple.
How do we know the cop is racist?

He was obviously a bad cop, to kill someone whilst arresting them. However was the action the result of racism, or just over enthusiastic restraint, or mere thuggery?

I expect that will come out at the trial. And woe betide America if he is found not guilty.
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